This Jedi Church has the right to exist as a religious entity ?

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This Jedi Church has the right to exist as a religious entity

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Reasons To Disagree

it dont if you dont all mark your self's as jedi's for the next censust but for now count this as a yes :D

The Jedi forsake all rights and adhere only to duty. Wether this religion exists or not does not weigh the existance of Jedi.

we are not a church we are jedi

A church is a political entity, not a religious one. This Jedi Church has the right to TRY to exist, as does any political entity. A right to exist implies that if the church were failing, society must come to its aid.

Labelling as a religion/church is superficial and unnecessary. We know in our hearts that Jedi is the one truth, and we don't need official recognition of this to validate our certainty

if you exclude the darkness,how can you walk in the light,you lack ballance,it is the dark that ties all things together,to persecute the adepts that study the shaddows is a blasphemy to your own kind,there will always be the strong,the powerful,the menders of ways,the dark

Not necessarily

Jediism is a lifeway, a philosophy

No, as you are based of a fictional, Sci-Fi Movie that nerds love to follow. Such as myself and everyone stupid enough to belive that this is a real religion.

We are not a religion we are a force we are Jedi. The Jedi are not a religion we are a way of life.

Peace is a lie. There is only passion.

 

Reasons To Agree

why the hell not the packies think an eight armed ellefent is their god

Yes, we are a philosophical group. As are all other religions.

But only if they submit to my rule as grand God of the force

If we can have crucades and jihads, I think we can allow a more peaceful group of people for once.

Philosphey and practice of a peaceful means should never be discouraged. And if Mormon is a religon, so is Jedi.

Of course. If there are enough followers, then anything can be a religion really. Even if you believe that rats are holy beings.

We are free, not bound by human control

It has as much as a right to as any other religion.

why not?

It would be truly great if Jedi could become a religion for all those who see fault in the other religions, who think all other religions were just made up a long time ago , and who want to counter the attrosities that are carried out by fundementallists of the established religions. if the Jedi could formulate its own global or even galactic constitution, bill of rights, and laws or commandments, it would be great to see a gradual rise in the power of free thinking, moral , fair minded people who are released from religious mass control and can start to heal the wounds of the world. we have the technology and the knowledge, now lets display the wisdom to end poverty , agression and ignorance on our planet.

it is not doing any harm to society

Strongly agree, if there is right in it then do it. The worst that could happen is that we take responsibilty for our own actions...and an occasional light saber fight.

Even nerds have the right to faith. Even if they still live in their mother's basement.

Hell no! Useless jedi, couldn't even fight of a few clonetroopers. The Sith on the other hand should have the key to no.10

If people truly want to follow the path of a Jedi then it should have

The Jedi Church has not only a right but a Natural Right to exist as a religious entity. If it had no such Legal right in human society, the Great Force would simply take no notice of such a disability but would continue to exist and to describe reality in euphoric disregard of all who would deny it its existence.

Again, it is equally irrational as all other religions, therefore it has the same right.

All religions are man-made constructs of either faith or philosophy. None is more valid or invalid than the next due to this singular, universal truth. Therefore, all religions should share the same rights and privileges - or parody and ridicule - regardless of popularity, or the lack thereof.

The Jedi religion gives the Jedi Church the right to exist as a religious entity, therefore it gives itself its own rights.

with out a shadow of a doubt

Everyone has the right to religion

of course yes

if we are believes then we have a right to worship our beliefs in a place of our choosing

evey religon has a rite to exsist

right to religious freedom!

Not sure that Church is the right name though. Temple is better.

love the first agreement

If scientology is a religion...

Once it was thought of, it existed. The rest is just time and paperwork.

We have enough followers so yes.

Everyone should be free to choose and follow any faith of their choosing

of course it can in britain jedi surpasses judaism sihkism and buddism

The Jedi religion has just as much right as any other religion, and has the added bonus of being far less destructive and hateful than most.

yes and may the force be with you all!

If scientology has the right...then we sure as hell do!

It exists without needing the right to exist.

As the bumper sticker says, "Freedom of religion means ANY religion!"

If we belive they we have a right

any method of living followed by a person or group of persons that has a main aim of progressing mankind as a society in all aspects is epic win

If those others can be counted as real religions, certainly the Jedi Faith can be admitted for legitimacy.

yes there should be alot more

well yeah, we have as much right as chrisianity i mean come on the follow a beardd guy who walks on water =o

The Mormons are.

All systems of belief have the right to exist as a religion.

Whos to say it's not a real religion, is it really any different then any other one in the world. We believe in one unified Force much like God, or Allah, we simpley don't give it a name or image, it is an energy force, a one unifying energy that exists.

it's a natural right

it should have called Jedi Temple instead of Jedi Church.

if scientologists can, then why can't we?

Just because it is totally ridiculous doesn't mean you don't the right to be ridiculous and be labeled by the rest of society as a moron and not be given respect. You should have that right.

As long as one is serious about being a jedi then there is always a place for the jedi church

But not the state of israel, just the Jedi Church

The Jedi Church has not only a right but a Natural Right to exist as a religious entity. If it had no such Legal right in human society, the Great Force would simply take no notice of such a disability but would continue to exist and to describe reality in euphoric disregard of all who would deny it its existence

all religions have the right to exist. no matter how small or large.

of course

They can't just make us all disappear can they?

As long as people believe in freedom of religion, then yes, it will thrive.

it should be fully classed as a religion.. we also should get jedi academy

of course

i think that it would be good to becoume a religion but it matters not as we all are as we shuld be.

It is in our constitution of the United States to have "freedom of religion" so why can't we believe what we want and have the right to exist as a religious entity.

Our voice deserves to be heard too

Jediism is not only philosophy, but it recognizes spiritual approaches to the Force. As such, it can certainly be called 'religious'.

Why not. The Force is only another word or aspect for god.

As any other religion or way of life.

Yes it does. It will have as many branches the force has facets.

The very definition of religion seems to describe Jedi beliefs. So of course the Jedi Church as the right to exist as a religious entity.

The freedoms of all people are important if the Jedi wish to be recognised then nobody has the right to deny them

If people believe in a flying spaghetti monster, we can believe in the force.

sure why not ? :D

I agree that if someone has a belief, then no one should make fun of it, and accept it!

The "Church" has no right to exist until we at least have a code

Since the Jedi is about the only religion that is not trapped in the past, people caught up in other religion may question its right to exist. If Jedi is 'a threat' to other religions then this proves the 'threatened' religion to be of the dark side.

The Jedi have as much right to a belief as any other religious calling. They do no harm, and only wish to enhance their own a bility within the universal force. The Cosmos is a huge place and there's more than room enough for the Jedi. I'd be a Jedi if I weren't too old

Religion and way of life go hand and hand.

Of course we have the right, the same as anyother religion.

any form or thought has the right to exist as a religious entity saying some1's dousnt is just hypicritical.

The Jedi order is a group of people that believe in the extance of the Force and seek understaing both alone and together as a group. Where a group comes together with a common belief for the purpose of exploring that belief by its very definition is a religion. Where religion is a right the question is moot, where religion is not a right then all people should see that it becomes so. As a Jedi we respect other cultures and will not exist as an overt religion within those cultures. Where a culture does not recognize religion under penalty of death or imprisionment as Jedi we have both a moral and innate duty to affect a culture inorder to preserve life.

Yes we DO need official recognition, otherwise we will get marginalized. We need a CHIRCH ! NOTE my new spelling! Not only do we have a right to exist but exist as a group. Where two or three are gathered in the Jedi, there is the Force also. I prefer Harmony to Force.

if we believe then we have the right to exist as a religious entity

What else would we be here for?

it is more religioon than evolution, so yea of course

Totally agree. If we believe in it then it should be allowed. If not then all other religions should not exist either.

if Christians and Muslims and Sikhs can make up theirs then we sure as hell can too

FEEL THE FORCE.

it is our willing

As all others do aswell.

this has as much right as any top be a relgion the same right as cathlic jew and scientologists

My thought on this are yes, yet the way of the force is more of a philosophy than a church or "religion" and i always thought it should be called the order not reigion of the jedi.

we should, so we can have an official holiday, like may 29th, when ROTJ came out, and vader died...

Only when there is a consistant code and direction.Buddhism or (aoism are philosophies, not "religions". I also believe that Jedi faith, as I understand it, is closer to true religion than any self righteous warring faction I see on this plannet.

sure, why else am i hear

yes,but rember that religon is man made and the force is fath

If a book by L. Ron Hubberd can be the basis of a religious entity than of course Jedi can

It has the right yes but will it really be recognized? I doubt it. But who cares? I choose to believe what i want to believe and i'm happy. If some asswipe decides to take this whole Jedi thing L.Ron Hubbard though i'll be seriously pissed.

If scientology can exists then so can the Jedi faith.

We have the right to choose what to believe, because the belief has only the power we gave them.

Without the Jedi, the Galaxy will be vulnerable to the Sith - Padawan Kiz

The Jedi religion has just as much right as any other religion, and has the added bonus of being far less destructive and hateful than most.

remember scientology! Jediism is much more realistic

The right, yes. The pros and cons of becoming an official religion are annother matter

Everyone believes in different things, and a religion is a group of people, that have gathered who believe in the same thing. So why can Jedi not have the right to exist?

No one has the right to tell others they are wrong unless it harms another.

Religion has lost all its meaning, so yes

Without a doubt.

and why not

Everyone has a right to stand up for what they believe in, and should be allowed to do so. Anything less than this is an atrocity to The Force, and mankind itself.

a religion is what a group of people believe in so yes

forsure, who has the right to tell me or anyone else what to believe in. i dont bother anyone in their views. this is harmless, and follows valured beliefs ..

hell yeah

In the force, enyone has right to do enything.

if we say that we exist and we are a group of people with a title no matter the common cause then we exist. period.

Of course but not as rigid as other religions Pride is the way to the Darkside

Reasons for Remain Neutral

as much as any other religion.

Only if the Jedi Church accepts and respects its secluded Jedi members who wish to live in solitude in the outer rim or in a mountain or live an underground life in over populated cities - just like clergy Taoists who revere hermit Taoists.

No es nuestra razon de ser el saber que tenemos o no la verdad, sino el de servir al bien y la verdad.

If other religions exist why can't this one.

Only if the Jedi church face the fact that there is no things like "light-sabers" (yet I'm working on that one) and base the church on the code and not the movies....Only then Will people accept us and out way

what exists and what does not exist is all in the mind do you need others to validate your existence? Train master yourselves and you will be JEDI!

Freedom of religion

Yes and that said, Jedi has nothing to do with the Church. It like all religions is a common means.

Whether we are legally a religion or not shouldn't matter. What is in our hearts and souls is something different, something that no political entity can take from us.

Whether we are recognized is of no consequence. We are here, and that is all that matters.

There is no reason why not. But this is not a religion it is a way of life-The Jedi way.

First and foremost, I am a Jedai. Note the difference in spelling (ancient egyptian) - it is not religion, it is far more than that, it is a way of life, not dogma that chains down a life and spirit. Religion = dogma. If you ever truly want to see the heart of what it is to be a Jedi, I recommend "The Emerald Tablets of Thoth" as important reading.

It is far greater than what one would call religion.

that is grossly up for interpretation, but i believe so

It has the right, but that doesn't mean that it will be recognized as one!

we are jedi but we also belive

It can do whatever it sees fit in vibration to its truth.

you become a jedi once you have trained to attain the use of the force id say we have a long way to go but there will have to be a beginning i think we should be a church of the force not church of the jedi, jedi serve the belief in the force not a church

The order may be interpreted as a religious group or simply as a gathering of like minded individuals

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