Reasons To Disagree
Jedi value all life. We must set an example for all non-jedi. It is okay fro non-jedi to have early pregnancy abortion but we should provide an example. if you dont want a child keep your knickers on you dirty slut All life is under the protection of the force and to kill anything that is not a darksider is wrong. if you are powerful enough with the force you should be ablle to have an abortion without using a clinic in which case it would be a miscarage not an abortion Life is life, if you cannot reconize that and cannot hold true the the Jedi ways enough to preserve that life, then you are no Jedi.
(and if your not ready for a kid... keep your pants on) To have an abortion would be killing another human being. Although not born, it is still taking the life of the child, and an innocent child no less. If If I'm not mistaken, killing an innocent is a part of the path to the dark side. we need to respect life This would mean that a Jedi loved, and they should not have. They should immediately leave the faith. you must let the force decide the right choice For a Jedi all life is sacred, even that which is not desired Its a aberration for the living Force Not if Jedi value all life It's not. Jedis are pro-life. And destroying or ending a life that's beggining sounds more like a Sith practice. Jedi value all life, however small or large it may be. If there is a choice between the life and death of any being, a Jedi should always choose life unless it comes at the cost of many more lives. abortion is just plain wrong your killing a newborn padawan Love all beings. It's not our job to send creatures to the Force before they have a chance to learn about it. All life is sacred. Jedi hold all life sacred even that of an unborn child. To abort the child even at early stages would be killing an innocent. Babies start to develop and learn even in the womb. A Jedi should not get pregant in the first place jedi value any life form but if the child will born into poverty then yes an if the child will be unloved then yes if not den i disaggree
Life is created by the Force, no matter how that innocent life came should it suffer for another wrong doing. Life should not be extinguished for any reason, murder to this degree could have major consequences for the future you may be murdering the next mother teresa. We must stay in tune with the force, and that includes the living force. We are keepers of the peace afterall. jedia protect life becose life is a force Hell no! what about the Living Force??? This question is absurb. How can anyone question whether it's right or wrong to take a human life no matter what stage of life? Jedi value life. Could you honestly kill a child that's part of you? IT'S WITH YOU WITH THE FORCE! YOU CAN SENSE THAT CHILD, RIGHT?? THE FORCE BINDS ALL THINGS TOGETHER! You + baby? Right? Right. So it's not whether it's okay for a Jedi to abort, it's that a true Jedi would not abort. To terminate an innocent life is NOT the Jedi way The termination of a pregnancy is the termination of a life. It is therefore wrong unless it is necessary to save a life (ie that of the mother if her health is at risk). be proud of your birth hence forth be proud to give birth.. if it is an unwanted child .. then the baby is to become stronger by the will of the force alone. death to an unborn child are of dark thoughts and will lead you to the dark side its a no no Only if the fetus gtives written consent. Life is life, Abortion is murder, murder leads you to the path of the dark side. Jedi Don't kill. They take responsibility by either give the child up or parenting it. The universe needs more Jedi. Jedi should not be pregnant even though jedi's should not get preganant.
It is wrong to kill as jedi's save life not take them away. If one becomes pregant then they should be expelled from the jedi order nothing happens without reason. The individual must decide if wants to become master. By invoking another soul into your body you become it's master. If you don't feel strong enough to do it protect yourselves. Todays medicin knows so many efficient ways to do that. Jedi must protect everyone, especially those weak who can't protect themselves. "early stage" term was implemented by the dark side. We are the part of the ever existing energy. Now, we are in human body, but there was a time we were not in it. But there was a reason for us to accept this body to make a change in the life. It is your choice - you go into the dark side or the light side. If you invoke the energy into female body it becomes it's shelter before femal's body will give its human shape but is already there. Out of the question. You must take responsibility for your actions. Not to mention the force will guide you through tough times. All life is sacret, unless the jedi's life is in mortal danger then i cant feel it justified. There are many that the force is not strong with who are more then willing to take care of the child, if unwanted by the jedi. Life is life,
you are disrupting the natural flow of the force and willing it to your way.
This is the way of the dark side.
The light believes in using the force when needed,
not using it to gain our wants. Value all life, no matter how big or small, or formed I would only agree to abortion if the pregnancy comes from a rape, violation, or other sexual agression. Abortion in other cases means that one have sex without love, out of the Force...on the Dark side... Even in the early stages life is meant to be Its a baby whos going to have the force ability! all life is sacred
Jedi aim is protection of all things
self, individual, society, planets and the universe As long as it is approved by a Jedi Council it should have no affect upon a Jedi, although as Jedi value life above all else abortion isn't usually an issue. It would be very sad.
P.s Have the Sith infiltrated this site?
I've noticed some very nasty comments! Jedi value all life even the unexpected. jedi's Should value life. however we must look at it objectively. abortions should be allowed if suffering would result from the birth. unless completely nessacary no, in order to preserve balance in the force disagree! ven b4 that lil heart starts beating the force runs though its cells! Na we need more jedi babies Abortions are retarded...Completely retarded...The only way they should be allowed is if it was rape that caused it all...Even then I still think it's stupid....Do the crime do the time. Jedi value all life,no matter how small. I think the baby should have the right to live in our world, because life is very precious. We only have one chance to live, and we should give that opportunity to the baby. Jedi believe all life should be sustained, so no, no abortions should be allowed. why is a Jedi pregnant? never take the life of an innocent it is agaist the order in the first place to have love. but if you feel like having a serite relionship and end up getting pregent you should never abort it.. thats just wrong. its like taking a life. you should only take a life if its for the greater good. Until they have fullfilled their duties, and stepped away from active involvement in the Jedi religion, Jedi women should not even be involved in procreation, but if they do give in in a moment of weakness the only justification is to promote all life. It is NEVER okay, but it may be necessary. In pregnancy there are two loci of the force; the infant parasitic on the adult. If the adult decides that infaticide is necessary, it is NOT the province of the Jedi master or council to grant or withold permission. However, the reason for terminating a locus of the force is something that the master or council must consider when asessing a jedi's progress. A true Jedi would devote their remaing life to to the care and education of the child NO All life is sacred No Emotion, yet peace.
Ignorance, yet knowledge.
Passion, yet serenity.
Chaos, yet harmony.
Death, yet the Force. They call it "The Living Force" for a reason, why would you terminate a young life when at the very least that child could be put in a loving home through adoption. no way A Jedi shoUld nOt be aVoided
Once a J3d1; Always t3h Force w1th all points made here have merit, however they would hold the same merit if it were a sleeping 5 year old. the kid could not protest, the kid wouldnt know his brains were blown out, It would be easier for the mother, maybe she couldnt afford it, maybe the kid was holding her back, etc... no its the easy way out with a life destroyed. Im not suggesting what anyone should do Im suggesting what a JEDI should not do. it is the will of the force,nothing is chance,life is life and is a valuable commodity not to be wasted
NOT IF YOU BELIEVE IN LIFE AND THE FORCE if it was going to kill the mother then maby ok but i think under no other cekemstances should if be dune otherwise is saying i can not contole ny body but then dont have sex witout protesion thats how u contoll the body as it is only croud mater so to do so wond be saying i can don the thing but have no conseqeces so is cheating life A Jedi should value all life and there is no reason the baby can't be put up for adoption. The life force of the child, no matter how early in existence, is not an accident. Only under rare cases are people pregnant by means other than their own choices. True Jedi accept the results of their actions, and learn from them. Even in accidental cases, and rape cases, the being has already come to bare, and no one has the right to smote another unless utterly dire. Keep your lightsaber sheathed if you wish not to have little glow sticks. Jedi respects all life but jedi also do not force ideals on others. Abortian is wrong!!! No, because even in the case of if it was a choice between the mom and the child, the child could possibly be transfered to the womb of a surrogate. No The Jedi see all living things as a manifestation of the Force. All living things were brought about for a reason and as such all living things should be allowed to be born, live, mature, and fulfill their destiny. A Jedi will always advocate for life. At conception, a person has a destiny. There is no way to know how little or great the child's destiny will be. Why would a Jedi risk terminating a potential great leader, or influencial Jedi? A child is conceived and then born a pure Jedi. An abortion is killing a Jedi. Killing a Jedi makes you a Sith following the path of the Dark Side. How can this possibly be acceptable?! Jedi should procreate and increase the following of the faith through children. Other Jedi should support and assist the fellow Jedi mother. Surely it is NOT acceptable to think otherwise?! If this turns into an age debate, governing the age to be in the Church as a Jedi, then realize it is up to the parent to apprentice their children. The adult Jedi must preserve the child's innocence and purity until they can be a 18 year old, adult,certified Jedi. The child of a Jedi, is a Jedi Padawan until they chose a different path or turn of age to be a Jedi. We are not to end the life of another being.
If it means that your life will "end" - if you keep the baby, then I guess it's a tougher decision to make. Then, for once, you can be allowed to think of yourself first. You do have a greater right to live than the cells that are growing inside of you. Do not misunderstand me on this matter. NO!!! never take the life of another unless it greatlt threatens your own! The force is a cycle part of this cycle is birth without birth the force dies and the order dies The Jedi Respect all life in any form, and besides that, taking the life of an unborn child is taking the life of that which cannot defend itself. that is not the Jedi way. It's not ok for a jedi to have an abortions. Cause a jedi job is to save life's not kill them. And only an true sith would kill a unborn life. Jedi life is sacred and valued. We cannot lose a Jedi. If you have an abortion, then you have killed a Jedi and therefore should be banished from the Jedi Church. all life is sacred Jedi value all life. Everyone deserves a chance to live. If need be put the youngling up for adoption so they may have a chance.
it leads to the dark side Destruction of Life is a crime against the Force. I am for Free Choice, but a Jedi should be more mindful than to fall in a situation where such would be needed. JEDI life is precious at all stages. All life is needed for Balance,jedi should not give in to lust, then try to hide their darkness,in science. all life should have a chance Too destroy a child is to be against the will of the Force. Controlling the Force is not the Jedi way, but being one with it. Controlling the Force is the way of the Siths. Life is valuable and sacred all force sensitive beings must be raise for the sith will return. no, its kill a indefense kid It is the responsability of a jedi to protect the force and those within, including one's unborn child Jedi preach love not hatred. Killing an innocent is against the way of the Jedi and thus should be allowed. Whilst all life is treasured and not taken for granted, there are instances when a child should not enter the world. In these extreme cases, there is but one option. the force is the one that determines if a life is ready to be brought into this part of our reality. let the force decide,not us. There is the force in all of us. At the point of conception, the Force grows within us. To have an abortion is to destroy the Force, thus doing the darkside's work. one should never reject or destroy the all might Force. Once an egg is fertilised, it becomes a life form and thus should be destroyed unnecesarily A jedi must respect life, in all its forms. a baby is a blessing it goes against the force to even think about it. mind your thoughts A child unborn is a being still with the Force. To destroy life wounds the Force. the jedis number one goal is to preserve life Like in every choice, listen to the FORCE. Let things come, Don't stop a natural process, Force will guide through the difficulties. This I say to us all. I think it's not the way of the force to rebel at its natural flow(in this case birth of a child.) When we charish all life, then this question will not be nesessary. If Midi-Chlorians are indeed inside every cell, and are part of the force, as is life, then when the egg turns into a cell, and then a ball of cells at conception, their is life, and Jedi believe in preserving life, even if this life is from someone of the dark side, they shouldn't kill. And Abortion is killing. Even more so it's killing those truly innocent
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Reasons To Agree
anyone must do what they think is right A Jedi understands that a living being is not "crude matter". A Jedi knows we are "luminous beings".
Thus if the crude matter of a being is removed before birth it causes no harm, for the luminous light of the being will live on. A Jedi understands that a living being is not "crude matter". A Jedi knows we are "luminous beings". Thus if the crude matter of a being is removed before birth it causes no harm, for the luminous light of the being will live on. Only if it is a nigger baby or mixed baby Surely Jedi can come from any species in an infinite universe. They may have different biology's, customs and traditions. Isn't this is a rather local question, and private those involved. Besides, wouldnt it be so cool if Jedi doctrine only included statements which no-one could argue with either scientifically or religously, then there would be no reason not to be a jedi and the church could outgrow all the other faiths on earth. If you are willing to take up the expense of another's pregnancy then feel free to disagree, if not then leave the decisions to those who must pay the price. An abortion is not to be taken lightly, it is indeed killing a living being but in the end it is returning to the living force and so therefore not really dying. The choice to procreate or not is personal to any individual, and the individual should not be disturbed in her determination to keep or to end a pregnancy. She will base her decision on her own choice of factors and live with the result. As to males, they should not impregnate any female with whom they are not willing to procreate. I think that better than abort is to use a condom but everey one is free to decide what must with her future As far as i can tell. If the family is not ready for a child, then that child will grow up without getting what it needs, and that will only lead to the dark side.
That and we already have a surpluss population in most countries as it is. if they are raped or they are too young or arn't any any capacity being health or finiacialy able to have and or support a child then yes Again, are we Catholics here? of course Yes, But only if the force is not strong with the fetus A Jedi needs to make that decision for herself. Jedi are here to serve, not to make decisions for other people. Perhaps someday, nobody will ever have to make that choice again. What they want for their child is their decision so long as the didnt actually have sex in the Jedi status. Choice of the individual. That is why we are all different and each has their own mind. We have choice in this life, right or wrong. Abortion is just one way of terminating pregnancy. It is ok because they may be able to sense the dark side of the child before it is born. It is a rare talent but it has happened from time to time. If so they should throw their affections aside for the time being and destroy the child, preferabely with a light saber, because if they dont he could grow to become a sith lord and attempt to destroy the universe. under certain conditions ie too young to support child finacially or emotionally or a product of rape which is the darkside In the early stages of pregnancy the fetus has not yet developed to the point where it can be considered a separate life from that of the parent. At that stage of development I see no problem with allowing for an abortion. There are any number of good and justifiable reasons for such. However, once the fetus has reached the stage of development where it can truly be classified as its own entity, it would be immoral to terminate the pregnancy. The importance of early detection and decision is tantamount in this area. If one is not ready or capable of raising a child then it is imperative that the pregnancy be terminated before that cluster of cells can develop into a beng in its own right. A Jedi should have the wisdom & opportunity to make the proper choice for their life and circumstance. depends on the financial state! Depende de cada caso, ya que hacerlo por que si no estoy de acuerdo, pero en casos de nacimientos anomalos claramente estoy de acuerdo, asi como en casos de abusos sexuales tiene la decision la que tuvo el abuso. yer its fine as long as you use a light saber Liberty is a sign of force and responsability. yes. only if there is something medically wrong with the baby it is necesarry in somecases like having a sex monsters child so it shud be allowed but only in special cases Some humans can't be parents, for many different reasons. Jedi use the force to believe what is right, and if the Jedi thinks it is the right thing, then you should respect thier descison If one is not ready for a child or fears they will not be a good parent it is imperative that they make sure they will not cause harm to a child or themselves. I've always believed that a woman has the right to choose. A truly balanced jedi would acess the situation an atempt to objectively decide whats best for all concerned. I should not be promoted as something that should be done at the drop of a hat but the option should be made avaliable to those who seek it. depends what the situation is, its your body take responsibility but only because of confirmed medical dangers to the mother A jedi padawan has not learnt full responsibility and cant handle it PRO CHOICE I am PRO CHOICE. I see no reason that if a 12 year old girl, gets raped my her brother, she should have to be forced to have a permanent reminder. Wow. I read a lot of hateful things. Jedis????? I think there may be some sith voting here The choice is with the person and the force will guide them to the right one. Once agian we have no right to choose for someone else. Sometimes the force can throw you a curveball and you never know what to do but look to the force. it is not us to say sith is strong on this page Who died and made us all the council. You gotta do what is right for ones self I believe that abortion is simply the death of an uncouncious organism, like killing an ameoba, for the gain of the Women holding the Organism.
Social and spiritual gain cannot be completed when a person is carrying an unwanted spouse. This choice should only be up to the pregnant wife according to how it occured. It is JEDI's wish , if she wishes to be pregnant then she should relinquish all power because JEDI should not be weak at any point of time.
I cannot foresee all possible circumstances and so cannot completely disallow it. It would certainly be extremely unusual and would have to be a council decision on a case-by-case basis whether a member could remain a Jedi and participate in an abortion. This is a thorny issue, there can be many reasons for wanting an abortion. In the end the person considering the procedure should ask themselves if they could love the life inside them if it were born. If the answer is 'NO' then perhaps it would be kinder for them to never be born at all. This is a personal decision. Jedi embraces many different groups each of which has their own morality. Look being a Jedi means one thing. know the code and follow it. All side decisions are up to the individual. Being a Jedi you are not forced to follow the code; it is your choice what to do in your life. It not yet life It matters not what you do as long have faith and live by the force Choice is key. The Jedi way is to look to the light, the good, for others. The option to kill ones unborn child is independent of the option to do good to others I don't believe any religion should take away ones personal rights. Abortion is a touchy subject that can be very circumstantial. It should definetly be left up to the woman. If they want one, they will have one, so why fight it here. If it would be the lesser of two evils to remove the life before it brought into a world where it is not wanted or cannot be looked after properly then I agree it should be allowed. only in the very early stages Only if you use a lightsaber. Women are the gatekeepers. The Force has made it this way whether we like it or not. No one but the woman in question can say what is best. All mothers make great sacrifices so that their children have life and yet we rarely consider what other contributions a mother might have made to the world had she postponed having children until she was able to properly care for them. Furthermore, the Earth is dying. Our environmental impact is exacerbated by the addition of millions who we already cannot feed and care for, whose lives are destined to be suffering upon suffering. For the would-be mother who feels the spark of life within her but who can see the long journey full of suffering that lies ahead for her and her child, it is devastating to make the choice to end that journey before it begins, but only that mother knows what is best. Only she sees all the variables that are in play. No other Jedi can see for her. An unwanted child leads to disturbance in the force. if she?s in the first 18 or 20 days tops of pregnacy stage. yes. at that time, its only a cel. it doesnt have a hart or a central nerv sistem. alway, if its legal it can be done in our religon only for rape or because of financial issues that will harm the future padawon KEEPING THAT BABY IF YOUR LIKE 13 MEANS YOUVE RUINED YOUR LIFE AND THAT CHILDS? THATS NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION>> THATS COMMON SENSE!
JEEEEEEEZ!!!!! Only within the first 3 months. Though it silences a life, it can also be the result of horrible circumstances.(rape, incest, etc.) As a Jedi master male, I think our servants should have the right to choose there own babies fate. This may be self preservation, givin the whole Luke vs. Vader mess. We can't have these little buttholes coming out and swinging red lightsabers at us and starting inter steller war. At the very least the church should provide advice and support. It is not for a Jedi to decide what is right. It is the Force's responsibility to do so. Yes. The Jedi group does not come ahead of one's private, personal decisions. there are so many different possible scenarios that no opinion is valid without more details. Is it to save your self or the child?
Bringing a child into a world of pain would be wrong. Foool, abortions are awesome. This isn't something I would inform another to go do, that is for them to decide. If they feel they must, then by all means I will support them and help them through. If they say no, then again I will support them and their decision. After all the force works for all of us in different ways. depends on circumstaces and ages If keeping the child will be detrimental to the health of the mother or in other ways to other people, then they should have said abortion. Or if it is a man, like that one rapper. That would just be hell on the man and they should get it.
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