Women should be allowed to reach the same senior rank as any man in our church?

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Women should be allowed to reach the same senior rank as any man in our church

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Reasons To Disagree

females are the weaker species

There is no gender, there is the Force

women are weak in the force they give into ther shoe lusts and such!

Women base their actions on emotions there fore having more chance of going to the dark side

DARTH FLUFFY BUNNY believes in sexism, and sex

There is a great un-balance to the force in this realm. A true jedi does not give in to emotions. A true jedi follows the will of the force. Flows in and through the force. Sacrifice your ego. if a woman from this realm can truly let go of their darkside completely, then let them become Jedi Masters, for in the force we are all .

It was once said that a Jedi is neutral. Well it is for this reason that I disagree with this statement. If a Jedi is to be truly neutral, then shouldn't their gender be neutral too? How can one expect to be completely un-biased when tied down by affiliation with a sex? So I have a proposition. Shouldn't a true jedi remove their genitals, and all sexual organs, and become one with the force. But perhaps these means are unnecessary. But I still disagree with the statement.. No one considered a woman, or man, should be allowed a senior rank in the church. Only those who have no need for gender, and to whom gender is truly irrelevant. I will end my rant on this note. No one is truly un-biased when gender is taken into consideration. In a perfect world, we would have no need for that distinction bar the basics of reproduction. Please let true eqauality reign.

Women are a disturbance to the Force.

Women shouldn't be even because women don't know how to lead and even if they do. They can be easily replace and they can be easily raped! like hand banana does to Carl off of aqua teen hunger force :D

Women are weak and will be crushed by the likes of lord vader!

No because every 30 days they go to the Dark Side.

None of the great leaders were female, they cant teach the ways of the force.

women may reach the higher of the lower ranks, but should not be allowed to reach the higher section of ranking

Weak with the force they are, women are a weakness to males and provide greed, jealousy and anger to males, paths to the dark side of the force they are. kiz

With my experience in life, Womens emotions can get in the way of intelligent decision making at times. Not to say that they cannot make intelligent decisions, but that they tend to decide by emotion.

the lusts will corupt them to the dark side

i agree women can easily go to the dark side and betray their fellow man. women are men with extra features. and should be used as maids and schoolteachers and police office

I think that they should clean and cook for our senior jedi leaders to show them their upmost respect.

anal

Woman are there to serve men and this is what they should do, matters like faith are to hard for them to understand and there emotions may get in the way of their decisions

A true jedi does not give in to emotions. A true jedi follows the will of the force. if a woman from this realm can truly let go of their darkside completely, then let them become Jedi Masters

 

Reasons To Agree

All Jedi should be treated equally.

SILLY QUESTION, OF COURSE THEY SHOULD.

Woman have the exact same rights as any Man, so of course they should.

We are not misogynists, women can be just as powerful Jedi as males. There is no need to fear, for fear lead to the Darkside of the Force!

Men and women and in between are all equal.

Woman can be just as wise and have just as much knowledge as a man.

I think that woman and men should be treated equal but not the same. Bio-logically and mentally, women and men are rather different. Biologically, women may have such things as paternity leave and if the head of the whole jedis was on maternity leave then everythings going to be put on hold. Women also are mentally on average, make decisions with influence of emotions and generally cannot gain as much power as what the average man can. however, in reguards to intellegence and logic, women are good, if not better than men. For these reasons, I think that women should be allowed to have senior rolls, but not the highest of the highest positions.

All jedi are equal in hte ways of the force

yes and who is the ass hole who said women are weaker

Regardless of gender, all Jedi are equal.

women are fundamental to our cause and should be shown equal valiance and respect

Come on its the 2100 Century same rights for all

For every Man on earth...there is and equal woman.

We should do away with boundrys between the sexes.

My mother is a religious leader and she does very well so I know that women do well

All the humans are equal to the force

I don't think the question is correctly formulated. I think it should be: "Women and men should be given equally fair opportunities to reach the same senior ranks." Most of what discourages many women to advance is the attitude towards them while climbing the social ladder. But yes, I do agree they should be treated equally, with respect to the differences that make them stronger.

We're not in the middle ages.

y shouldnt women have the same rank

All Jedi, if male, female or other, are equal in the force. So Women therefore should be allowed to reach senior rank.

the force should not be sexist.. everyone should be treat the same.

the force should not be sexist.. everyone should be treat the same.

This must be the religion of the equality.It's true that we are differents, but with the same rights.And we can have the same perception of the force.

women can be just as strong as men and should be allowed every right.

We all need to have balance in our lives this includes us men to be in touch with our feminine side.

Equality is the only way to advancement, and jedi-ism has no room for bigits who judge people by any thing except their actions.

the force does not diferentiate sex .. we are all one with the force

i think than thay are gided as any other

Every Jedi is equal. Even the thought of not allowing it is stupid. Women have been proven to be emotionally stronger than men.

all of us are made by the same thing, does its make us different?

All beings in the universe are equal in the force therefore woman should be allowed.

All people are equal, the force is with all of us, Master Shaak Ti was a great Jedi and was female

In order to be an equal and unprejudiced spirituality, this must be so. We wouldn't want to be confused with some other popular religions, would we?

THERE IS NO GENDER, ONLY /FORCE/

All Jedi should be treated equally.

The power of the force, and the wisdom to use that power are all that matter

women have there belive to if the want to be a senior member then let them

Of course, they are as part of the force as men are.

We all Jedi are equal on the eyes of the force

They have nice boobies and stuff Although cooties could be a problem We'll manage..

We are all equal

Every thing has been said, Its NOT about the gender its about leadership, In other words best candidate for the job is the only reason for selection. Everybody has difficultys and advantages. Anything related to hate is the darkside. Sir Liam

Lets not be like the Catholic Church...

Becuase they are Queeny!

gender, race, species, these things are insignificant. Knowledge of the force and ability to lead are all that matter in a council member

Aye, gender or race should not be a barrier. All are equal, despite the differences. Diversity makes us stronger

Its in the jedi code. All species of the universe are equal. this includes women. May the force be with you

As a female, I see no reason I would be any less capable than any man. Its whats in the heart and minds that is important.

The Force will dictate in the end

this is a ridiculous question. but I'll answer it and hope for more serious questions

the force is in all universe, the knowledge must be teached to any one who is in the religion

Gender means nothing to the truth of the Force.

Yes,we can know more woman in here

Women Are Part of the world and should be accepted as equals

If you disagree with this, you are a sexist bastard

It's not only important, but essential that the female energy be included,because of the caregiver archetype. Without it, there would be no healing aspect, to balance the warrior archetype. Luke Skywalker had a balance of these. Because of that, he was able to retain his love for his father, thereby avoiding falling to the dark side, and becoming a pawn of the emperor

Sex matters not.

All are equal in the force

In the force's eyes, both men and women are equal.

Woman are one with the force as men are. The force isn't biased toward sex so we the followers shouldn't be either.

women are just as one with the force as males and so therefore they they should be able to reach the same rank.

Woman can do anything man can do, in high heels.

A true Jedi knows there is no distinction between male & female. We are sides of the same coin.

The Force itself is not sexist.

The force does not discriminate

we are all born equally with the force and all of us should be at one with it, We all join the force again when we move from our body shells. Man and Woman are born equally andf should be respected equally.

I can't say again what has already been said by everyone else.

Woman and Man are only at full power together!

No need to justify.

Let the women vote

Balance can only be acheived through equality and so you need men as well as women.

Yes, in the WAR of good vs evil , every options should be explored.

Diversity provides the greatest strength. Women are an example of the possible extent of diversity.

Rank should be defined by ability not sex. We are all part of the Force.

i yes , not because im female, but i think it should be quall and not sexised

we are all from 1 force

If the force doesnt have sexist actions, why should we?

Women Jedi are equal to men and should have the same rights.

If they can then should they

I am suprised this is an issue, we should not be arguing about this instead focus the energy on a more positve light.

I personally think that all people should be treated equally.

All Jedi are to be treated equal. Without woman, we men would not be here! what a silly question!!

Women are driven by emotion, so it is dangerous to except them, however they should be allowed to reach the higher levels, regardless.

if you follow the code it shouldnt matter

all things are equal

The division between the sexes leads to disagreement, and often fighting. This leads to darkness. The differences should be embraced and capability be the true judge of what an individual is capable of.

the force is for everyone who chooses it.

i just ranked a supreme master jedi for a female for the same ranking that i have, but i takes only patience to get her ther

Girl power ftw!

All humans are equal through the eyes of the force.

All living things have The Force flowing through them.

Men and women are equal. I have worked with women in the military and as a police officer and they are just as capible as men, so why shoudn't they be able to reach senior rank.

Most definately!!! I don't even understand why this is in question. Religious sexism, in my opinion, is a barbaric and primitive pattern and should and WILL be broken. The Force lives through all of us; separate genders only exist for the necessity of our procreation.

all beings are equal to the force it dousnt matter what the sex is.

A Female Jedi is as capable of understanding the Force and portecting life as any Male Jedi and as such are equal in the Force. To further the idea, a Female has a special connection with the Force in that the Female is the vessel by wich the Force brings life into being.

The opportunity should be given to all. The ability to advance in the Force depends on the indivigual. The fact that women are more prone to emotional influence may hinder their advancement, but should not be used as a reason to omit them from the process. A woman's ability to over come her predisposed basic nature should prove their worth that much more. Ultimately, this could result in a even stronger willed Jedi.

Women brings lives to the world and the life is FORCE.

The important thing is not gender but the example that the person represent

all are equal

While some may say women are the more emotional sex I disagree; it is not the generalization that they are more emotional that is correct, it is the generalization that Humans are emotional that is. There is a strength that is within us all, both men and women, let us build upon it, for then we will be at peace with the force and we will let it flow through us.

Yes. All who follow the code should be allowed equal opportunity to advance rank. A man can be as easily seduced as a woman. For this reason, perhaps only those who have taken a vow of celibacy & are content to remain in celibacy should be allowed to reign as Supreme Jedi(Honestly, I don't actually know the official title), for attachment to a significant other can cause one's devotion to the faith to falter. As one member suggested, maternity leave could be an issue with a woman as Supreme Jedi, & if we were in the movies, I would agree. However, in real life I can't see this as being as big an issue. After all, the Jedi Church isn't going to war (under our own command), are we? In closing, I feel I should state that I am male & not a paying member yet; but only because I am dirt poor. I am seeking to be a minister or other active participant in a mimistry...& as an eclectic(with no current way of paying for minister school), have not yet chosen a church. Please pray for me in this time of crisis. Amen. You may contact me at artofclark@hotmail.com

no matter what gender should have the same right

alot of this made no sense

Jedi should be treated equally.

I think to even ask this question reflects poorly on this organization. (so do the list of "Cons") What was the point? How can you be sure there are not already Women heavily invested?

Is sexism not morally wrong?

This is a pointless Question, of course they should. Women tend to give into lust a whole lot less then men and they are usually smarter then the general populace of men. take "Master Shaak Ti", from the star wars movies, she was a master. Women are stronger than men when it comes to intelligence and political diplomacy.

Equality is key. Without it there will be a distrust between peoples and that should be ruled out completely. Women have just as right in everything as we men do.

The Force is not biased.

every one should be treated the same.

The Force itself is not sexist.

Women are the great creation force in the universe and should therefor be equal or greater than men.

All life is born of woman. Women are human.

i agree yay for women jedi!

Any nay-sayers really can not tell the difference between metaphor and day to day literal language. A lot of things about the force cannot be expressed with literal language, hence metaphorical language. Analogies, parables, come into play to help your mind transfer your comprehension of one experience to another. It's not about light and dark any more than it is about man or woman.

There is no place for inequality within the order.

Yes women are no less in the force as men

Discrimination of any kind is undesirable. Gender is irrelevant.

the differnces are minor between male and female spiritually. The force no's not gender. although physically woman on average are weaker this should have no affect on the rankings of the church

women should be allowed to reach the same level as all jedi are, as i feel, are equal in title of administering the force within all of us

To vote otherwise would be based on emotional bias, based on hindering the potential of others.

If we are all considered equal in the force, there should be no reason to discriminate based on gender or any other physical attribute.

The Force is in every living species throughout our universe and as such the female of ours has every right to take on the doctines and rank if proved worthy.

i almost though they couldnt be jedi in star wars, but they can do i'm going to almost agree

The force is in us all so why not let our wemon be able to reach senior ranks.

we all draw from the force

Regardless of species, gender, ethnicity, orientation, or age we are all one in the Force

Of course Women should be allowed to reach the same Senior Rank as Men. Discrimination leads to conflict, and conflict often leads down the Dark side of the Force.

yes they should all jedi should be treated equaly no matter gender. if your a strong enuff leader and you got the skills and you are a woman then yes.

jedi belive that every one is equal and this in cludes women as well

I strongly believe in the practical sense but spiritually I don't think gender should matter to begin with

We all draw equally from the Force and should be equal in all areas.

Its simple really. Why should one creation or body containing a soul/force/whatever you believe be superior to the other? why should a cat be more important than a dog? Both genders/ capsules/bodies have equal capabilites and knowledge. its stupid to even THINK men are superior, and that women should not have these rights.

I am smarter, stronger, and more clever than any man I know, especially Jonathan Boulos; therefore, women should be allowed to reach and exceed any senior rank of a man.

there is only ONE in the FOFCE.

The force knows no need for gender discrimination.

Women are equal to men in all respects be it strength or intelligence

We are Jedi, we are above such differences of men and women, we are all trained to not let our emotions cloud our judgement.

All life is equal.

MEN AND WOMEN HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AND SKILS, MEN HAVE MORE STRENGHT BUT MALES HAVE INTUITIONS...

there is no men without woman

Women can become great and wise leaders, but they must be as strong in the force as any man they wish to be a peer of.

If a man wants to be in charge of the telling of fairy tales why not a women

of course

Everyone is equal and should be treated as such.

Women are equal to men. That is the way of the Force. The duality between Light and Dark, up and down, left and right, male and female. Where they bring life, males bring death. Where we are strong, they are wise. The Force is about balance.

All Jedis are of equal rank whether a woman or man or anybody in between. it is our faith to be equal as one, the force is one- it doesn't need gender. we jedis r all of one...

We are same

The Force with all of us, both men and women.

the force is in all of us

The force has no gender.

We need to practice what we teach.

We are all humans

There is no reason why females can not reach the same rank as males. We are all a part of the Force. And the Force does not judge based on age, gender or race.

woman as a species are fundamentally equal to a man in every way, except maybe physical strength but any worthy female chosen by the force will overcome any physical struggle.

Women are not weaker than men and there are female Jedi out there. All Jedi and humans and creatures of every kind must and will be treated equally.

All are equal.

Of course

the force made both men and women, we come from it. There is no difference in the force, no weakness. Both men and woman are strong and nessesary in thier own way.

Women represent 51% of the human race. (That's right.) I would NEVER join any organization discriminate against THE MAJORITY of people. It's ludacrous.

In essence we are yhe same and have the same potential to do and become whatever if propose

The force within oneself does not diminish ones ability regardless of their physical strength. your ability to reach senior ranks should be based on the Force you have within yourself, should it not??

The Jedi seeks to preserve the balance of the force so why not preserve the balance of equality. As we are all of the force we are all equal regardless of sex.

women and men are equal to the force

The force is in all life in the universe therefore any scentient beings male or female should be treated equally.

if it was unfair, i wouldnt even consider myself a jedi.

Strength knows no gender. The strong should lead and the weak should follow.

women & men should be equal.

Women, are just men with a vagina.

THE FORCE IS LIFE. LIFE HAS NO GENDER. ONLY THE WEAK FEAR, COMPETITION DRIVES THE DARK SIDE. TO RULE AND CONTROL IS ABSOLUTE. THE ARGUMENT IS MUTE... TO PREVENT ANYONE FROM COMPLETING THEIR JOURNEY IS WEAK, FEARFUL OF COMPETITION & TRYING TO RULE AND CONTROL.

As a male I see no reason why women can't hold the same rank

The force is in us all, so rank should be decided by ability and strength with the force, not biological factors such as species and gender.

I agree because we all return to the force when our life reaches its final point, thus making us equal there. So we should be equal in life. We should not hold 1sex back so another can prosper because that is not the jedi way. Holding them back could cause jealousy and lothing, both are equal paths to the dark side. We are Jedi and must not give in to the way of the sith.

obvuuslyy!

The force is in everyone

be you male or female, it dosnt change anything

there is no sexism there is the force

Women are no more emotional than men, we are all equal beings of the force and we should never be in the way of any being, seeking the ways of a Jedi

all are equal

Of course Women should be allowed.

If the force is strong, it should not be held back due to gender.

I recall an Anakin Skywalker behaving strictly on his emotions. We all know where that got him. Obviously, it is not the women that should be worried about. O.o

I like trains ... he he !!!

The great force that binds us all would see us as equals rather than individual people

of course, women are just as wise and intelligent as any man

women are no weaker than men

Gender must be irrelevant to allow the growth of Jedi.

to block the path of individuals in this case women leads to corruption

the only differance betweeen men and women is wo

You can't tell a woman what she can or can't do when it was a woman who gave birth to you.

If a woman shows she is worthy of the position, let her. If she shows skills equal to or better than someone of that rank, by all means let her have that position when it is available next.

Reasons for Remain Neutral

i am neither dark or light, i am staying on the neutral side

women are lower class sayians i myself am a super sayian and i say women shouldent be allowed

Disagreement in this leads to the dark side and the fact this statement was put forward disgusts me, Soon we shall all return to the force and be one were there is no gender no difference so why treat each other differently we are all human we are all alive we are all conscious

i agree

Anyone who thinks women shouldn't needs to get some counseling.

Gender bias and gender discrimination?

We all know what is right and wrong, to remain neutral is the 'right' decision, in my opinion.

You are limited to your own abilities of being with the force. Gender matters not

if by equal you mean hoover and do the dishes then sure

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