Reasons To Disagree
SOME LESSONS FROM OTHER IDEAS IS IMPORTANT. I.E. TEACHING A MAN HOW TO FISH VERSUS GIVING HIM A FISH. THE FORCE KNOWS NO BOUNDARIES. If we turn powerfull we can use these power to be bigger and have a section of our organization that seeks to help other people. it is better to educate than to "bail out" if the church is wound up, the leaders should seek a solution that is most proper for that present, we can not decide what to do when we dont yet know what is going to happen NO
Would any other church or sometihng do it for us Jedi affairs must be carried out by Jedi alone. True Jedi are mindful and present having no individual ego or hidden agendas. Rise of Jedi numbers and status will occur but all matters pertaining to Jedi must be handeled by Jedi. I don't think giving out money to a charity is necessarly the best course of action.
I would suggest to use that money, to get us to physically go and help (wells in africa for example, but any other good act would work of course - or even several smaller acts) -
Money itself has no value - it is only put by governement to keep people "working" - creating a need for something virtual that has no value - If we get bigger we can expand and help more people If there are funds then it should be used to promote peace through the teachings of the Jedi order. However no funds are preferable because it ensures the purity of the purpose of the Order. With a proper guiding body that is answerable to its members this should never be an Issue. we only should give them the means to start a better life. Should set up an ongoing (interest-self-renewing) fund immediately for the purpose of educating in the ways of Light. This fund should be independent of the Jedi Order, and all Order funds shall be designated to flow into this fund upon the unlikely dissolution of the Order. If it does so then who syncronized with our ideas
should be given. The current organisation "Jedi Church" might be "wound up" at some point. But The Force is eternal. Upon the demise of Jedi Church, the assets must be placed in an interest bearing account. Those assets should become available again if a legitimate Jedi group is formed in the future. Legitimacy would have to be based on the group attracting some reasonable number of members, for instance 100,000 members? Or other possible requirements set forth by the council. Who does believe in taking a bunch of money and spreading money we arn't communist or are we? I think we should just give the person a little check and let them learn life as said before teach a man how to fish for a day and he can fish for life that is what i will go with! :D Do not give the money to charities, for that money will never be used for what it is meant for, and instead will go to line the pockets of the greedy. If Jedi wish to help others with excess funds, then Jedi GO to where the help is needed and provide to the needy which also gives an excellent point of outreach by example. this is rediculas the church shouldnt even have funds. we help provide poverty relief by doing something about it not throwing money at the situation. what ever happend to getting things done by the sweat on ur back. The funds should be redistributed to the members in order to allow them the opportunity to assist others in their own fashion. no one would help us, so why should we help them The church should never be wound up, the belief must just be passed forward... Poor people can go die in a hole, give it all to me! The Jedi Order must focus on strengthening internally and let it's members strengthen the Order externally. If we do not have faith in ourselves then how will the Order establish it's self in the community if it's members don't have training centers the help Padawans to become Jedi Knights. Members must have a purpose other than feed the mouths of others who would better learn to benefit from Jedi Knights personl involvement in their own self education and discovery of the force other than hand outs. What happens when a wild animal receives hand outs? A mind in a survival mode will fall prey to their emotions and will be suceptable to a non Jedi Knight mentality. Jedi should supervise over all Jedi contributions of good wellfare to the world community. Human nature to be wound up but Meditation heals that wounds in the force Most of the funds should be used to help us, the jedi order, whatever we have left can be used for charity. Despite the eagerness to help the poor and needy,comparatively small amounts of money often make little difference in the grand scale of things. If the Jedi church were to fold and there were monies left after all administration, then this money should be distributed to the remaining Jedi organisations in furthering the teachings of the force. If the Jedi church were to fold and there were monies left after all administration, then this money should be distributed to the remaining Jedi organizations in furthering the teachings of the force If there is a cause that should get help from the Jedi, any money the church is going to spend on helping should be used to equip Jedi to go and help. Giving others money to help is saying that money is the same as the Force. The church should take care of our own, until we can help others, we need to help eachother become enlightened within the force. The Jedi, are not charity. Poverty relief is the band-aid solution. Other groups all already approaching problems from that angle.
The JEDI must donate funds to solving problems at THE ROOT CAUSES. The money should be used directly to help fight poverty than we can be sure its goes to the right people the funds should be split between members of the jedi church Spend it on light sabers !!! Money is not the keypoint in helping people. Actions, Thoughts, Love/Force is the way. Money should be spent on our own projects to help EARTH in general. We should devour our selfs to the actions that help people, not just throwing money at them. It is better to help people ourselves and help in one place plenty than in many places without effect The church should never be wound up. If something like that happens then we use the appropriated funds to build up this mighty religion again, and repeat the process until all other religions are ground beneath the boot like the insects that worship them.
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Reasons To Agree
I agree, unless the money was wasted on wages and administration of these so called "charities" rather than reaching the people who really need it. I agree, partially, the funds shouldn't just be distributed to people in poverty but to other charities as well. For those who really need it, not to those who will use it for personal gain. Donations of money to charities is good poverty, education and relief funds. are all good things. but the giving to other groups is mute, why not take the money and make our own fund so that way we would be sure that real help is being given it is the Jedi belief to help others, that is our purpose in life and IF the church winds up, should we not end on a good act? helping others. that is the Jedi way Not all funds but some. As Jedi they should fuind a way out of their own mess but as Jedi we should help. I believe that as Jedi our job is to do something to help with the greater good. Simply providing money to assist with poverty isn't enough, though, and I believe that if the money were to go to a specific cause, such as a soup kitchen or homeless shelter, I would be in complete agreement. it should be given to charity, which charity recieves the boon should be a matter for the council at that time. again lets be a force for good. helping others is a noble goal
if the sith (or whomever) are able to disband us, our dissolution should provide aid and at least mitigate the loss of an official jedi presence. Others should always benefit from the Jedi - we are bound to end suffering & oppression in our world all money donated to the church should go to more successful Charity groups. who we know will support the needy Helping people is the key to Jedi. Build your own charity instead trust in someone else. Yes, as long a s the money actually reaches the people in need and not the company staff. It would show that the Jedi order is good to the rest of society, and improve societys view on the Jedi. So should it be. Our purpose is to make this world better. Choosing to donate to a charity any leftover funds would uphold the honour of the Jedi, rather than see it misused by those wishing to embrace darker feelings. Absolutly, we should give back to others. As long as the majority of the money is going to do good and not to the administration of the charity. If funds were to be distributed to combat poverty then the organization recieving the funds should be scrutinized to see the method by which they use those funds to combat poverty. Does that organization simply use the funds to in a haphazard manner by giving away food, material objects, or the funds themselves with no expectation of that person bettering their position... or does the organization use the funds in such a way as to help the individual educate themselves, become self sufficient, or provide an immediate need where one is otherwise incapable of immediately becomming self sufficient. The latter would insure that any funds could be used to the greater effect. Should be clearly established within the Constitution anything to help others RSPB There should be no need for money in the order. It easily corrupts, and drags us into the realm of politics, as it did the templars.all money should be for nessecities, anything more for charity. i think they should go to help the poor.one charity i heard of through my school is:
street child africa
theyre great If anything should happen to our order then we should surely leave our funds to the less fortunate. we are group of the light side and we should that we use money for nesecites,and the rest for charities Sounds reasonable. The Jedi are beyond such attachments anyway, and I think we'd all prefer it to go to those in need, rather than go to waste. If it is agreed by council I agree but only on the idea that we should in no way promote the church through the charitable donation. However I also state that a council should decide as well, based on our votes. It's a hard question that can only be truly answered in the specific instance. Though many of our hearts say it is the positive thing to do - does it fulfill balance? Unbalanced positive influence can easily turn into negative. Perhaps this suffering of poverty is in balance with something we re not seeing. Perhaps they are impoverished from irresponsibly managing their resources, and aiding them will only encourage the behavior. Look at the bail outs here in the U.S. Our focus is and shall be balance as it is found in the Force and in Nature around us. Wherever the money goes it should mirror our philosophy in a "final" ry for this balance. we require only room to think and resources to sustain our bodies in the intrest of the force Jedi's are here to help others, and as such, so long as our Church does not need it, we should strive to help anyone we can. I agree. The funds should be distributed to help poverty-struck children and family. The most vulnerable of us all are our Jedi younglings. We should treat them first because they will carry on out legacy. But everyone is equal and nobody will take more than any other person even if they are a Jedi of course if we wish to call ourselves jedi we must live up to the name and do everything we can to help others The force is a good thing and we should respect it Help those that need it, if we have no use for the money then give it to those who can put it to use. Yes but not just to 1 charity. We should do what we can to help those in need
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