Our faith in the force existed well before the fictional Star Wars movies brought popular recognition to the terminology and concepts that our members always innately held?

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Our faith in the force existed well before the fictional Star Wars movies brought popular recognition to the terminology and concepts that our members always innately held

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Reasons To Disagree

This did not exist before the books George Lucas wrote.

I don't know, when I born, George Lucas and SW, were there, so...

There was no such thing as a "Jedi" before Star Wars.

Sorry to say it but the Jedi church is from the movies and books. I'm afraid to admit it, but it wasnt even close to an original belief system before it was tied into Star Wars

The GOOD and EVIL is creation of our own MIND.

George Lucas came up with the term: "Jedi" But the principles of "The Force" existed in EVERY major religion. The Force is in many respects another name for God. Mr Lucas I believe owns the rights to the Jedi terminology on behalf of the Star Wars Franchise.... If you really want the Church to be accepted beyond the Star Wars Mythology, a name change would be in order. They own the rights legally AND in the minds of anybody who thinks the word Jedi... The principles of the Jedi, were based off of a conglomerations of old religions (as most religions are actually VERY similar), but did NOT originate from there.... The "Force" in Star Wars was actually inspired by this movie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21-87

Nope its been similar like the samurai but George picked the samurai to match up with the jedi so in a way we are all just samurai? lol :D

The principles of "The Force" exists in all major religions - There should be a charge led to create a distinction between the movies and the religion.

The movies brought a very strong belief forward that I think many before and after all of us will continue to believe.

The Jedis were created in Star Wars. What we believed in, have hardly changed.

This is a stupid question.

 

Reasons To Agree

Of course, the force is the presence of a god/deity which means it has been around since the beginning (god knows when that was)

Simply because the movies weren't made or the book wasn't written does not mean it wasn't there.

More as Taoism

Lucas based the Jedi on Samurai in large part, followers of Buddhism and Shintoism. The Force is perhaps his own spin on spirituality as far as his terms and descriptions, but it actually fits quite well with many spiritual points of view that existed long before these movies... or any movie, for that matter.

Before Lucas and the movies, the ancient civilizations like Celts,Aztecs,Egyptians,etc believed on the use and existance of energies superior to the human beings, so we can say the knowledge and existance of the Force is older than the movies.

Was dragged to Christian church as a child but never believed it as I asked a lot of questions and was never given a satisfactory answer. I believed there was a power greater than me in the Universe, just wasn't sure what it was.

The movie just gave it a name

the ideas behind the jedi faith have always been around, Lucas just gave us a name for it...

The Force holds many similarities to The Path(s) of Buddhism, which only strives for "right living" and so forth. (We'll note as well, that the Jedi in Mr. Lucas' stories don't disparage the faiths of others. We could ALL learn from that. It only leads to hate, and the Dark Side.)

I felt the same way before I became a big fan of star wars

It is the Chi, The Holy Spirit, Gaya

if you look at the old norse text they talk of a force that binds all things and is in all things,they called it manna,if you were ill they would say that the manna of the virus was stronger than than your manna and shame would be on you in those practical warrior times

Lukas only mixed up existing religious concepts so far. So they have existed long before the first STAR WARS MOVIE. I'm as one of the first INDIGO CHILDS got born with the knowledge of all things in this world having a soul.

The Star Wars movies provided some common terms and expressed concepts for The Force. No one currently knows the origin of The Force, because it certainly predates human history.

It was exposure to the movies that made me realise there was more to life than God and religion. I was very young (only 4) when A New Hope was released and had not had the opportunity to develop my personal beliefs earlier. But I can see how people could of realised the existence of something they could not explain before that moment. They were only waiting for a name for their belief.

I was a Freemason for 12 years and it was the organisation that fitted my beleifs prior to Jedi. I chose it because of that. In my opinion the Movies only happened to package the faith, making the concept more visible. You could also have based it on older fictional or even factual heroes who embodied the meaning of the doctrine.

The force is neither god or evil, so we cannot reach out to it or blame it if it didnt help us. if god was real, he would not have let us fall to our demise. The force is the best explanation for the thing which began the world(big bang or whatnot lol) as it is always "there" the films just gave us bit of termonology xD the force could have been called Jiberyjoo if we wanted to call it that.

Agree. The concepts that Lucas used in the movies were taken from other contemporary religious ideas and philosophies that had influenced Lucas considerably.

Nice story.

The beliefs have always existed and followed, George Lucas just provided a name

The force existed always, although others interpreted it as a god, mystical being, ect.. If the force was always then so were we and our beliefs

Go back to ancient egyptian history - you will find all sorts of things in regards to the writings of the Jedai/Djedi.

agree

star wars gave it a cool name that is all

The Force did not simply come into being once a literary or visual work used it as an object of a story. The concept of the Force has been around since before the written word. The Star Wars story simply highlighted the path to what has always existed.

faith in the force is the oldest religion on the planet and until the star wars movies it was nameless because it was the one true religion.

Look, i heard the word Force, with a capital F used in the main atheistic Unitarian church in Toronto as a synonym for a weak God of some type, in 1954, that is long before Geo Lucas. 15% in that chch believed in the Force.

The Force is just another word for energy, Qi whatever you want to call it. Energy cannot be created or destroyed -- so it was around before we gave the name of the "Force" to it. And people who have a faith in Qi etc are also doing the same thing, the only difference is we, as Jedi have a different view on how to use this "energy" and so a different way of life determined by the Jedi Code. And Yes people were living like "Jedi" before the movies, just with a different name for "Force", I for one already lived life like the Jedi code determines but of course there wasn't a Jedi code I followed it was just a way of life hat I lived, now the Jedi way has brought another name to that way of life, and that is all the Jedi way is, a philosophy, and there are many ways to live life, chances are people have done this before just with different terminology.

the lone ranger, superman etc all good.

and it's called Qi...

the force is an entity that has been emphasized by the star wars series

but the films made it come to light

We are based on the ancient Samurai way.

well more as taoisim or bubist with the fighting skills and such

It's more commonly refered to as Bhuddism, but yes.

yes..but i do like bein a jedi <3

Its human nature to look for answers to unexplainable events whether it be from religion, ghosts, aliens, lifestream or the force.

Yes, i believe that there is no god who love us and has a plan for us...but a force that gave us the opportunity to make a change in life.

We all belive in something bigger than what we are as individuals.. some may choose to put there whole faith into this, while others believe we are our own 'gods' and the power held within us, is the greatest of all.. Much like the buddhist faith.. this above anything, must be true!

There is no god, only The Force and for that we have believed in for centuries before "George Lucas", an agent of the Sith, he is.

The force has always been present, it's just been interpreted differently before the formation of the star wars films. They just provided examples of order.

The name of "the Force" is just a popularized version of something I have always believed in since i was a youngling.

Simply because the movies weren't made or the book wasn't written does not mean it wasn't there. id said it existed more as Taoism

The force has been around for eons. It's not measurable! Please donate and spred the word. I would like to see the Jedi Church purchase a new starship. Only then will scientologist worship the Jedi, and leave the darkside.

search your feelings, you know this to be true

The Force has been recognized as many other things through out history. Asian cultures studied it as chi or ki energy. Pagan societies recognized the balance of the pure Force for thousands of years before even Romans began their conquest. The "Force" has been around since the beginning of time and is the Alpha and Omega.

The Force and belief in it was always around, yet it did not have a name or title, and George Lucas gave it one. He also brought more recognition to the cause, and was able to unite everyone under a common name.

although I don't have the force. I have empathy and sympathy towards the people around me friend or enemy.

The consept of the force exsisted in me before i knew of the movies, there for others could have come to believe as i have.

The principles of the jedi church existed before SW in the forms of certain beliefs of other religions

I believe that the Force has existed since the creation of the first living being, which is not human of course.

the force of the two opposites (negative-positive, good-evil, ying-yang) whatever you want to call it has been around from the begging of time - god and devil are two sides of the same person - it is important to keep the balance

The Syar Wars movies merely gave tangible expression to what many felt before.

its like the sun, star wars just gave it a name and recognition

simular to budda, just different form

Force flows eternaly. We have known it from the very beginning if there was one.

I've joined this religion not because of the movies but because I could feel that all religions where wrong and there was still a force out there what created all life

this is but a name to speak of it as the creator of star wars also build the Jedi Order in his Mind combining different believes

Reasons for Remain Neutral

Jedi should refrain from defending themselves. Defending oneself only feeds what you do not want to become more powerful.

George Lucas is the religius leader to the jedi faith.. he pointed us in the right directing on believe in it.. he pointed out that the force is real. the force might of been here since the dawn of time.. but George Lucas helped us relises it.. he should be knighted. or even king of the world lol

The concept behind the force, "panthesism", has been around since well before the christian era. The Jedi words and codes are newer. Our members held NO innate concepts, as I understand the word "concept", nor has any other human.

Yes and no. The Balance that it is, I am sure existed somewhere before Lucas [and subsequent authors after him] have defined, but the idea of "the Jedi Way" was first laid out by ole Uncle George.

I was not alive, so i dont know =D

You have to admit this comes from a book that also came out to the theater... but does it sound that much weirder than believing in a "man walking on water and that died for "us" cruxified on a cross? Just because the other religions have older roots does not (and in any way) mean they speak the truth more than any other religion.

Yes, it existed, but George Lucas brought what was many different belief systems into one idea.

My faith existed before hand, but I cannot speak for others.

I cannot answer this. some people may have believed this before hand, I however was enlightend when it was elaborated on during the movies. It takes an event or a person to spark a religion and the followers merely agree with the beliefs

I cant agree either way i don't remember before the first movie

I have not been alive since time began...who am i to agree or disagree?

Believing in an almighty force in the universe is ancient. Putting words and creating a serious philosophy, we thank George Lucas for.

The truth of the Force is larger than any story that reports it. Prana, chi, ki, tao, holy spirit, soul, vibration, etc are all talking about the same innate engergy. Jedi unite all of these under one term.

im nor sure but i just thought star wars was the reason for our religon

I dunno i just work here

I cannot make a correct judgment because I was born after the events of Star Wars.

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