Reasons To Disagree
The status of "adult" is different depending on one's location. Therefore, 16 would seem to be a more effective minimum. All ages should be allowed. If you have the youth under your control you have the world, plus you know those commercials with the poor little philippino kids and the old guy, Imagine if we had one of those! We would get so much support. Why 18 i am sure there are people smarter than 18 year old people plus people don't put there real age unless there slow in the head plus i know people that are 13 to 15 that are way smarter than 18 years old and even a 12 year old so dont limit the age i mean don't have 8 year old people but still dont limit it I am 13 years old, and I want to be in it. The young are a vital resource. They are pure minded and kind. They should be allowed to join. why does it matter? I'm just 14, and have been studying the Jedi ways of the Force, and I want to know more, so I say no... Some people know what they want and will stick by it till their old and withered, some of them will want to join, these people can be any age . as long as the parents are ok with it, I see no issues with youngsters joining :) age should not be a problem, would you allow a retard to come in???? wouod u allow a 8 year old with an IQ of over NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND!? Age does not represent maturity or wisdom. It is not a clear indicative factor. No. When do the Jedi normally pick their Force sensitive pupils? When they are infants. So anyone, any age, should be able to join this church. as long as they show that they know some value of right and wrong i dont see y not every1 has differant thought who r we to disband others for being youthfull infact jedi should begin at the earlyist age possible. 16 should be better The Jedi order should not discriminate based on age. Where a person wants to join the order that is not of age and the wishes of that person is against those of their parents or culture then the order should respect the wishes of the latter. A underage person can continue to live bye the tennants of the Jedi order and seek understanding of the Force without the order. Where the wishes of the youngling are not in conflict of their charges the order should gladly accept them and teach them. "Adulthood" should be determined by the age of majority of the home country of the applicant. All ages should be able to learn. It should be up to the individual and no one else. Choice of religion is a gift that should not be bound by age, race, or anything else. i suggest 17 yrs old, but will agree to 16 or
even 15; it is 15 in Bahaism. and how young is it in judaism? surely one of any age can be admitted into the order. afterell in all other religions, many people are born into religion. Ii is their choice if they want to quit in later life. I think that a person should be able to join the Jedi Order at any age if they have the proper discipline and respect and a willingness to learn as well as other qualities that make a Jedi. But this person, if they choose to join the Order before 18 will not be rewarded the rank of "Jedi" until they have proven themselves after turning 18. Members under 18 should be referred to as Padawans or Younglings. But also the person as all people who want to be in the Order, should be approved by a high ranking member. a wise young allows himelf to be guided by a wiser adult.. Do you have to be 18 to believe?
I know that the age of eighteen is not random for driver's license and all that -but religion should be for everyone. And what of the children of Jedi parents? They have to wait until a certain age to be accepted into their family religion? Anyone of any age should be allowed to join, age differences bring different ideas and experiences with them. A youth may note something that an older person misses. Also younger generations tend to be easier to train. Jedi are of all ages.
A minimum level of thought and intellect in one's statements here should be required. it dose not matter if you are older or younger in the end it all comes down to wisdome. maybe 16/17 No, anyone should be able to join. Even my dog is part of the Jedi church. I cannot say i agree with this, because as we should all be aware, age is no measure of wisdom. Or maturity. In spite of this, i do agree some sort of structure is needed, to ensure positive development for all. I believe there should be no age restrictions. For someone like me, who is 17, and has just spent the best part of three hours reading into the Jedi Faith, and being drawn in rapidly and wanting to know more, it is very disheartening that you would consider putting an age limit of 18. Responsibility and the maturity to make the right choices You should first be strong and good in the force. not weak and tempted to the dark side wisdom knows no age. any age should be able to be accsoiated with the religon however people should be indocterated when they fully understand what the religon entails We are not the Order of the Phoenix. We are our own order, and we know our own minds. Together we stand united, refusing to be brainwashed. If a child wants to be part of the Order of the Jedi, then so be it. There is strength in numbers. There is no reason to deny a person entrance into a religion before a certain age. age doesnt affect religion I disagree, many 16 year olds are capable of making intelligent and reasoned descions why prevent them from joining the Order? im 14 (atm) and i wanna join the younglings need to be taught the ways of the force if parents are jedi the kids can be padawans. but the age should very from where they orangate from wich they become adult If a person wants or feels that this council can guide the on a path they wish to take they should be alowed to join. and as far as the "my dog is in the church" comment. please don't make a mockery of what some of us take seriously Other religions indoctranate children from their first breath on without the child's consent, if a youngling finds the Jedi and wishes to learn and join they should be aloud to nonono! no other religion has a age req y would we? and the jedi from the movies had younglings they werent 18 they learned n were trained to fight. yes we dont need to train n fight but still the point is a age shouldnt be req Religion should not have an age limit. Do other religions? 16 should be the age!, Is like the perfect age to be complety razonable to choose your side I think it should be 15 that is when you start getting mature. Why does age matter in any aspect whatsoever? why does this affect your mind, knowledge, respect, appreciation or anything else? Sixteen should be the age able to join, If the person truly believes in the Jedi ideals. Let them. The age limit should be lower than 18. I believe 15 or 16 is a reasonable limit, at these ages there is a more state of maturity. Age is a human understanding. I've met 13 year olds with higher understanding than 60 year olds. It should be a maturity based criteria to distinguish the level of participation in any endeavor. Every one decide their live.
The age have no importance Most innate force based religion start training at seven and are wary of the clouding age causes. The force is ageless in itself The Force is not biased to age, gender, and race- so why should you be required to be a certain age? age is descrimenating against young jedi'. those with natural ability of what ever age will be selected for any task within the jedi religion. At 13, one should be able to join as a Young Jedi.
At 18, one should be able to join as a JEDI.
The only reason to distinguish the two is because at 18 (in most countries, one becomes a legal adult, and that can effect several legal
issues in terms of what can and can't be traded on the internet, and of course, any financial transactions as well. you should be able to choose when you join not be controlled in this mater The Force does not discriminate against age, neither should we. you should be able to choose when you join not be controlled in this mater The jedi respect life in all its forms. anakin skywalker was but a child himself when he began training in the ways of the force someones can be intructed by an adult wise The Force may be strong in a youngling and weak in a Knight, why let age dictate the fate of the order? age matters not their were hella little padawans. as in any religion right of passage is from birth, but the status of Jedi should be reserved for those that complete the necessary requirements. 18 to vote. Anyone who wants to join should be able to, but maybe not deemed 'Jedi' until a master deems them ready. In many religions people become members before the age of 18, so there's no legal problem. Maturity is not necessarily dictated by age. Padaswans should be allowed to join the order that they may freely learn, as may we all. The young are pure and we too may learn from them. everyone is equal and we should accept young member because we can give them our teaching earlier then they could learn to understand our beliefs There are no age limits for most other religions. Children as young as 3 or 4 are often members of churches. As such, I see no reason to exclude them from our membership. A Jedi does not discriminate for any reason other than ability. The minimum age for becoming a Padawan is the age they become capable of Reason. Children should be allowed to be brought up in the order by their parents. Their should however be a slightly lower age limit for people who are truly beginning their training in the path of the Jedi, rather than being taught about it. A younger person will learn much faster than someone who is older the ways of the force is not only for adults meny of us have had the force before we were born, i being one of them and to say one must be 18 to join the order is to deniy them from lanring about it at a erly age. NOOOOOOOOO age matters not im 15 and i have no less faith than an 18 year old Children won't take it seriously, when 1,000 minors join, by the time they reach 16 years old they move onto teenage things and we lose 800 or so of them. This is my concern. People do not change overnight on the anniversary of their birth. Age does not matter - it is the force within the individual that counts. A youngling maybe a Padawan joining might be possible before the age of 18 but the honorable Duties of a Jedi before coming age is highly unlikely i think.
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Reasons To Agree
I tend to agree as any decsion to follow a chosen path of life is an adult decision. Younglings should maybe be admitted as apprentices until they have reached a maturity to make such a decision. In saying that though there are no restrictions on joining or leaving the order at any time so it's not like they are trapped. It is probably more relevant in keeping the forum clear of youngling babble that it is important. I agree, you need to be a Adult to ensure that you can make any decsion to follow a chosen path of life, anyone who wish's to become a JEDI before this age can do so as an apprentice. It is important that the person joining is 18. It will help to create a religion with members who are adults. But it is an open religion and everyone is free to join of there own free will. It is probably wise to stick to this rule at the moment, if only to avoid legal complications in the future. Right about that, but what about our younglings?,apprentices, they should be able to join. But living in our world i suppose we must obey these customs I agree I believe that if someone is to join they should do so as an adult. legal issues with local laws must be watched, unless said minor submits a written letter from the parents or guardian I also lean towards the age of majority in regards to membership. As an adult, humans are responsible for themselves, whereas minors are the responsibility of the parent. There is also the question of legality, t'would be better during formation to avoid any issue what would cause non-members to question our validity and morality. To settle an age to fully join and adopt Jediism is not a bad idea. You can still agree with the precepts, but it takes time to understand the basics of a religion and before taking your final decision. Although the legal age to be an adult various state to state, at 18 you are an adult in all states.
Jediism needs to be more establish before it takes risks of any kind. Protection is of Jedi faith is priority. These are things that can be addressed again as the church evolves. At all cost, the legitimacy of Jediism must be protected. One incident mirroring that of the Catholic Church, would mark Jediism as a cult of obsessed Star Wars fans who brain wash and molest children. Even if that extreme scenario did not occur, Jedi would be accused of brainwashing children by the media. It is a given. Apprentice your own children until the Jedi are strong enough to defend it's beliefs against the media and the general public. No minors. A wise being is rarely one who has hardly had time to experience life. For legal reasons this is always best. This is not an easy descision, but faith should be an individual choise, not something you are trained to think. It should be the age of adulthood depending on the country. Until the Jedi gain public respect and understanding (and yes, I'm sure it will take some time) it could be said that the group is a "cult" that's brainwashing children. If a member is legally an adult, it's his/her own choice and the governments will stop caring. It would be ideal if there were some way of giving underage potentials a way to join via parental consent. he or she most be 21 or older. It seems reasonable and logical, but we shouldnt be too quick to turn our backs on the youth. The minimum age should be 16. To go any lower than that would be risking it, and would invite bad decision making and child-like behavior. To believe in the Force doesnt require you to be 16, but to make decisions that make or break the beliefs of the Church and what it stands for; this is something that should be left to the more knowledgeable among us. I feel that 18 is a reasonable age at which to make a rounded decision about ones faith and path. Young people are maturer earlier these days however such devotion to embrace the force should not be taken lightly. For many followers, including myself, have had beliefs and faiths that have eventually led to the culmination of the Jedi way. This comes with experience for many but that should not detract from an underlings determination if their way is forged. There is nothing wrong with persons under 18 having a seniors approval and guidance. Age is relative. I was much wiser in many ways at 14 than i am now. The younger may be ready, but at 18 they can truly make their own decisions and be commited to Jedi teachings. Younger jedi are easier to teach and will cling to bad habits less feverently than more mature jedi though they need to be taught by a senior jedi lest theyre minds stray to the dark side It seems reasonable and logical, but we shouldnt be too quick to turn our backs on the youth. The minimum age should be 16. To go any lower than that would be risking it, and would invite bad decision making and child-like behavior. To believe in the Force doesnt require you to be 16, but to make decisions that make or break the beliefs of the Church and what it stands for; this is something that should be left to the more knowledgeable among us.
that was well said Old enough to sign a contract I am 13 and I belive that everyone should be able to choose what religeon they have The younger the persons the more supervision organisations will need to get involved, and could jeopardize the cause. jedi are not above the law, the only time this should not be the case is if the parents agree to allow thier child to study our ways. like this it must be! to young jedi - to young force. Only when some one has fully matured should they be allowed to join, until then maybe an associates position. I agree, you need to be a Adult to ensure that you can make any decsion to follow a chosen path of life, anyone who wish's to become a JEDI before this age can do so as an apprentice.
Without a parent or guardian's approval? I agree. I believe it is wise for us to support parents. We are still under constitutional laws and 18 they are finally responcible for themselves until they turn 18 they still be a padawan, 18 is still to young to be a jedi master Anakin was not a master and he was older... Yeah i hate kids ha ha
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