The Jedi Church should treat all members equally, without any hierarchy, excepting the need to appoint a board for administrative matters.?

On average, everyone agrees with significant nonconsensus between 986 voters.

Reasons To Disagree

Although all members should have the same rights and privilages,there should be a council made up of representatives, to guide and oversee the general operations of the jedi order. This national council should then be superceded by an international council made up of Masters selected in a representative electoral system. Masters should be eligable no matter age, race, colour and creed. These masters should have mearly group decision making powers. Nothing more!

the should be only one leader

we should have a hierarchy, but nothing capatalistic or communistic

the board should be just for decoration. The members should be the ones in control by popular vote

Giving power of authority to a member, can be dangerous. However, a person empowered can bring strength and structure to anything. Giving ranks to members might be a little too much. But having representatives for the Jedi Church could be beneficiary.

Padawans aren't suppose to tell their betters what to do.

Speaking from experience, hierarchy can be very useful in setting up a community, however, it does need to evolve with its membership, not only the contrary.

A hierarchy in the Jedi faith is needed more so for to teach discipline and show respect to those more wise. The purpose of the high position should be that of a service position to guide and help others come to the correct answers to there questions.And a conceal is needed of course to

We Should Have a Jedi Council to gouvern us Jedi

its always best to have people in charge.. incase something goes wrong.. and the ones who have been around the longest will help the padawans with any questions they need answered.

We need a council. But i don't think we need a leader.

The Jedi Council needs to be reformed, consisting of the wisest Jedi avalaible, this way when decisions need to be made, all possible options can be considered and the best possible choice is made

I belive the jedi should have an order of rank that takes hard work to reach the top, but i also belive their should be many paths to reach it, so everyone has an equal chance.

Whithout a hierarchy the scociety willl crumble and become corrupt just like the communists

We need a Council not a leader

we should have a jedi council, to cuncil us all

As there are padawans, knights and masters, so there must be order.

the jedi should have an order of rank that takes hard work to reach the top, but i also belive their should be many paths to reach it, so everyone has an equal chance.

Those still learning the basics of The Force should be initiates or Padawans. those who have mastered the basics, but who are not yet ready to teach them, should be Knights. Those who teach should be masters. Being a Master should be a requirement for being on the council, however being on the council should not be a requirement for being a master.

A ranking system is more important then you'd think at first glance. I've found that not only is it conducive to learning but it also gives short and long term goals to the student. While we should never stop learning it still gives us a milestone to mark where we've been. I also found that the most resistant people to a ranking system are the ones whom are less likely to try and honestly better themselves in the first place. They tend to hide their disdain for soul searching and change behind a desire to have everyone be "Equal". It's really not about equality as we all are already equal, but should I be able to get a masters in religious studies because I'm just as good as any professor? No. I should if I want it, just like the professor before me, go to school and EARN it. That's really what it's all about.

No we aquire rank it gives us meaning

as long as all members are treated with respect. then having a ranking system is a good idea. we should all try and better ourselves

We need to have a dictator to enforce order!

This is a large organization, from planetary, national,regional and local ministries we need structure. however this doesnt mean we cant have a way to address grievences.

There is a hierarchy It's purpose is to find the best way to teach the way of the force on every level in every consciousness its purpose is to flow the way of the force through them through all

there should be ranks on how far your journey through the force has led you but everyone is equal.

A Jedi Council is needed

Without order there is chaos. Advancing in ranks also gives Jedi motivation.

No. There shuld be hierachy otherwise there would be no respect towards senior members as there would be none and eventually the order would fall apart.

A COUNSEL IS NEEDED. ASSIGNED BY ITS MEMBERS, BUT NO SPECIAL PRIVILEGES SHOULD BE AWARDED. IF YOU ARE OF THE TRUE NATURE OF THE FORCE, THEN ALL MATTERS SHOULD BE EASILY RESOLVED. IF CONFLICT ARISES THEN THEIR IS OBVIOUSLY A FOE IN THE MEMBERS OF THE COUNSEL.

I think a constantly rotating hierarchy is healthy. Without rank there is no order

There needs to be order to maintain flow. Without a system in place, people would lose their way as they simply span out into the chaos of the cosmos.

The Jedi have always had an order - padowans , knights , masters and the jedi council. This should not be in question if we are truly Jedi

Those still learning the basics of The Force should be initiates or Padawans. those who have mastered the basics, but who are not yet ready to teach them, should be Knights. Those who demonstrate harmony and proficiency with The Force should be Masters. Being a Master should be a requirement for being on the council, however being on the council should not be a requirement for being a Master. The council should determine the category of each individual member, while bearing in mind that a Padawan may have a greater particular skill than any of the Masters.

All members should have the same rights with regards to their rank and position. Rank and position are a necessity to order and these should be handed to those more in tune with The Force. Jedi's are not communist!

As it would be impossible to consult every Jedi on every matter a council should be appointed. One which knowing the general consensus of opinion would make the appropriate choices for the Jedi Order.

A council should be appointed and any matters with a questionable doubt should be discussed on the council and settled by popular vote.

I think a Jedi council would be a must to maintain Order, and ruling over Jedi events and rules, and the establishment of registered Jedi churches.

initiate,padawan,knight,master,grand master

Human nature always requires direction. Those who have only just begun to walk upon a path they do not yet understand are not yet fully capable of making decisions say, for those who have walked that same path for many years. Allow the council to be voted for by the general body, give them terms of service. If we are to have leaders, they should be chosen by US.

This idea is very similar to that of communism... And looking back on even just the last century, communism doesn't tend to end with a positive outcome.

The Force needs order to maintain balance. In the absence of direction there is chaos, as such there should be a counsil guides the Jedi towards greater understanding of the Force and represents the Jedi to the greater universe. All Jedi are equal in the Force, but not all Jedi are equal in life, purpose or destiny.

While is is good to trust others, a system must exist for there to be any thing. All members should have the right to proceed to the next rung, just as there should be no top rung until death when one becomes one with the force. But to prevent the perversion of the so called 'Dark side' the should be different branches with different duties, powers, and beliefs all still unified together with the same basic belief system, not only accepted but endorsed.

there should be a group of leaders

A high council should certainly be put in place because without it too many arguements would start to come up. Listening to others in the group with an unpredudice ear is essential however.

So long as all gain equal rights, ranks are a way to show experience. Note that rank is nothing more. Initiate, then Three Ranks: Padawan Knight Master Each are gained through time and experience.

for order to be maintained, there must be some form of leadership to help guide other jedi

Black people have no rights.

I disagree based on the assessment that a Jedi must ascend through the ranks. They start off as a Padawan and move up to a Jedi Knight and finally they are granted the rank of master. Beyong this basic hierarchy there should be nothing else

A padawan learner would't now how or why to act the same as a master would,yet through guidance from a hierchy could learn to attain the knowlege needed to become a master themselves.

while the general poplation should have the ability to choose the fate of themselves there should always be a hierarchy of excellence among the group to guide those less "favorable".but do not give any men to much power. because too much power will blind even the most virtuos

i would like to be treated with respect but we need people to lead us and people who are practiced to make discisions for us

Rise and shine

i belive that we should maintain a kind of hierarchy, to reward people with the most experience with higher level positions

Members of the Jedi Council shall have executive powers over those such as Padawans and Padawans shall have hierarchy than that of Females.

The force must be divided in an effort to help people reach higher enlightenment. If all were equal than all members of the church would be attunded to the force at the same level. Including newcomers like myself

There is great need for hierarchial structure in the Jedi Counsil. Padawans such as myself may indeed have a valuable opinion, but must only give this opinion when appropriate. We must all follow our masters and our teachers until we ourselves become masters.

Although all members should have the same rights and privileges,there should be a council made up of representatives, to guide and oversee the general operations of the Jedi order.

This is a matter of spirituality. If someone understands more than I do, I want them pointed out so I can ask questions. If I understand more than someone else, I want them to know to ask me questions.

padowans , knights , masters and the jedi council, headed by the grand master. Some are not yet fully trained in the way of the force, and as such are to be taken less seriously

I disagree based on the assessment that a Jedi must ascend through the ranks. They start off as a Padawan and move up to a Jedi Knight and finally they are granted the rank of master. Beyong this basic hierarchy there should be nothing else

The Jedi have always had an order - padowans , knights , masters and the jedi council. This should not be in question if we are truly Jedi. The force naturally selects its highest and most developed members.

we need a high council and a grand master when padawans become adults the should be knights

Debemos mantener almenos una jerarqu?a por tiempo, en donde los m?s antiguos puedan ense?ar las doctrinas y las ense?anzas a los m?s nuevos, a sus alumnos, sus padawan. Creo que debemos mantener la jerarq??a propuesta en Star Wars... iniciado Jedi, Padawan, Caballero Jedi y Maestro Jedi.

Hierarchies are very important in any successful organization. Experienced members can take on more responsibity and can guide new members. The mentor-protege relationship is VERY important in business, in life, and in most aspects of social life. To me, the JEDI seems like a group who can use ranks without abusing them and while still respecting others.

Structure and hierarchy are need in every walk of life, with out structure you have chaos. To preserve the delicate balance of the force we need those that understand it best to help guide others

Provided hierarchies are democratically elected, there is the need for them in order to ensure dynamic and effivient running.

Wisdom is not universal. A Jedi Council should be formed; below are Masters, below them Knights, below them Padawans, below them Sensitives. By nature of the force, they the wisest will be most connected to the force, thus higher in its responsibilities and training.

Only the strong should lead and those who are weak should not interfere with the goings on of the church. The weak only slow down progress.

There needs to be some sort of hierarchy. It will serve as a purpose of teaching. A member of higher rank (Master) would teach one of lower rank (Padawan). No one gets treated better, but the ranking system be used to help educate. (I hope I worded this correctly)

I believe that we should all be equal in status and rank, except for the council which should be the most knowledgeable and experienced of the order, so they can guide the rest of us and keep us on the right path

We need a heirarchy so that the ways of the jedi can be passed down from the wisest and most experienced, on to the youth of the next generation, so as to to maintain order and bring about prosperity for all Jedi.

Jedi council so that there are multiple choices

Leadership is always needed. All should have equal rights (example right to vote), but not all questions should be put to vote. Maybe there is no time. That is when leaderhip is needed. A council of equals appointed in a democratic way by those that have the right to vote should exist. This council can't be untouchable. There must be a way for the members of the church with the right to vote to vote someone out of the council. The council leads the church, and should, in some way, teach the followers. They should be wise, that much is true. They make decisions that involve the church and its followers. But when there is a question of great importance all should be asked, maybe in a form of a referendum.

The jedi system has a hierarchy which ensures that inexperienced jedi are mentored and aided through their quest through the force.

Obi Wan said allegience is to democracy not communism

As with any order - there must be order. The weak need guidance and the strong must feel responsibility.

A simple but effective hierarchy is needed to balance the Chaos other than that we are all equal

we r not the republic nor should politics b brought in but much like a tribe there should b some sort of council not for the purpose of control but because there should b a group to guide us all this is somthing we can vote on nominate canidates for a council

i believe there should b a council made up of a member from each country

if we do then obviously there will be a plit with one side greatly disagreeing with the other but, I still think that there should be a high order senate and a low order senate a bit like britains house of lords and house of commans

there must be a hierarchy to establisg order, master, knight, padawan. as a jedi progresses through training he becomes wiser to the force and is able to teach. all are treated equally but we all know that with great age comes great wisdom. and we could not expect a padawan to find his way without guidance. if for only the sake of preserving the knowledge and codes.....we need structure

The existence of a Jedi Council is imperative to the survival of the religion. It is important to form a foundation. The Jedi Council is made up of the wisest and greatest Jedi and can be trusted with our lives. The beauty of the system we have is that we all start from the same point, being padawans, and we all have the same chance to become Jedi Masters and even sit on the Jedi Council.

The need for structure indicates a lack of peace. Hierarchy can lead to the desire for power beyond self improvement. In this there is great risk, but fearing risk is a path to darkness. Fear should be acknowledged and encountered, not avoided.

No because i have 2 kids in training of the jedi ways im 10 and that wouldnt be right to have them boss me around they have to learn then they could. but this will also lead to the dark side it was a hard dision so i made it

A hirarchy is important in all religious grouops. Its a structure that members can climb. It encourages members to be more implicated in the religion.

You are what you do, become you must.

we need a hierarchy, one with a council, but not a fashist power hungry one, but one that listens to the knights, padawans and initiates and holds thier opinion with as much as they hold the opinion of a master

The Jedi needs to have a hierarchy to recognise the achievements of it's members. Although we all hold the force within us, it is stronger in some than others. Some Jedi are born leaders, some are followers. A true Jedi warrior may be able to combat the dark side better than most, but without leadership, they will not be effective.

Just like in a true Martial Art (not as in government), you treat all equally as a human and only treat differently according to the knowledge gained and effort put forth. The higher you go the more you become integral part in the training of the lower echelon. The same should be said for Jedi!

Although we recognize eachother as equals, and power means nothing amongst our ranks. We need to have a council and rankings.

This is a tricky vote. I disagree because the question itself is false. There is no need to debate that all life should be respected and that we should all be treated equally however it is an honor to demonstrate to your peers how you have progressed in your knowledge of the force and earn the honorific titles of Padawan, Knight, and Master. I leave out Grand Master because along with the rest of the council the head of the order must be anointed by popular vote amongst all Jedi who have earned rank.

a leader is needed but he/she must represent the religion, not there own wants

Without a leader(s) to head the Jedi order there will be no control of power,no discipline,only chaos and pointless strife.

A heirachy is needed but not based on power, more on wisdom and knowledge so those who are new to the teachings of the Jedi know who to turn to to further better themselves and their connection to the force.

Were all jedi treated the same in the movie? I think not!

I believe that all followers of The Force are equal yet i also believe that we do need set leaders (A Council if you will) who can maintain the Order yet will work in a democratic manner, Eg: For "important" changes there must be a community vote as to not put in place a "System" that will constrict people to things they do not agree with. May The Force be with you, Obi Sims.

I asume it's necesary a Jedi Council for maintaining the good running of the Church and its structure all over the World. it would entail a certain hierarchie: padawans, kinghts, masters, members of council. But, I think, this hierarchy doesn't involves any privilege but a service to the comunity according each grade.

All members should be treated equally, but there are many benefits to having a structure for instruction and progression.

We need a group of appointed officials who, in turn, have shown that they are looking out for the greater good of the jedi and have shown that they are strong in the ways.

Help us stay organized, having a small hierarchy could. Council I remember the jed have which leads all administrative orders, then masters, there are, knights, and padawans. Help people learn quick a master could teach the ways to 30 padawans, having a small hierarchy will, teach 10, knight can. Give members more work to help the church, also each rank would.

I dont see any other Jedi masters here... I should lead the jedi's

the followers of the force should have an individual to idolize, a genuine master to uphold and promote our way of life. One who will present us positively earn us the trust run our nation. Someone like Master Bater^

As a youngster I seek guidance, for the force I feel is strong and discipline I must learn.

A lack of good and strong leadership always precedes failure.

I should began my training and not become a master at first. Doing so we can ensure that there is no frauds among us

Hierarchy is needed for Organizational structure.

Every one has a field of study they excel at. In order t maintain Discipline in and of the Force the must be a Council. As well as heads of Fields of Study. Temples should also be places of learning as such places must be occupied by the Council. Section.

There needs to be some higher than others. So we learn, not all go straight into having all the same responsibility.

We need a Jedi Council, not as supreme leader, but something like spiritual adviser (if you know what i mean)

There should be people in charge but they shouldn't be to powerful over everyone else

Council is necessary

As in life, Jedi Padiwans are born innocent with empty cups. Our Jedi Master teachers guide and mold us to take our place in the world. Once we master the skills needed for a life of service our teachers release us Jedi Knights into the world. After we are tempered by years of experience and service, we are ready to become Jedi Masters to guide our younglings in the way of the force. Those who are exceptionally wise, skilled, and experienced should serve on the Jedi Counsel to guide the order and mentor our Knights in their service. This is the natural order of life. No position is to lorded over those below them, but to raise others up. So it has always been, and so it should be.

There is no hierarchy in the unifying Force. However, in the shells of our crude matter order should be brought to chaos. The Order needs its Masters.

Jedi Council

There must be a council for leadership

Although all members should have the same rights and privilages,there should be a council made up of representatives, to guide and oversee the general operations of the jedi order.

all of us need guidance and those of us who have time in the force should be willing to expand the knowledge base of the rest. bringing us all along the path

We need a heirarchy, not one that will make anyone less "important" members, but one that will make sure that the correct traditions and learnings are passed down to younger members, and can help everyone learn the ways of the Force.

I believe the creation of a council of masters, then knights, apprentice/ padawan/ younglings. this will help keep order and to have the higher ups teach the new comers on how to be a good jedi

they could be part of isis or another terrorist organisation we do not know what they could be doing

The 'actual' Jedi order had Knights, Padawans, Younglings, Masters, and a Grand Master. What's the Jedi Order without the council? This religion should be the same I feel

We need a hierarchy with long-serving knowledgeable Jedi guiding other members. Hierachy is crucial to order

Though all life is balanced with the force there are those who hold that balance e internally to allow other to extend the balance outwardly. There should be ranks.

We as a collective people must have a international and representational force so we can gain the respect the order deserves.

We need a council to keep things in check so we don't have someone trying become a dictator and badly representing us on our behalf

You need different ranks

It is simply a religion not a business

All should be treated fairly and with respect but without leadership there is chaos, disorder.... Leads to fear, leads to the dark side

There should be a council formed of representatives

Reasons To Agree

No one should have more power then anyone else, unless of course the need arises to have someone take charge of a situation.

yes we are all bother and sister Jedi

order is needed to maintain balance

We all should be the same, no one has any more power just wisdom

When we raise ourselfs above others.We have already made a judgement against them. Also an opinion of who they are and thier place in life.

I have to agree with the above statement. I as well have studied martial arts, and this is true. You need wise old(not neccessarily old though!) masters in charge. To pass on the traditions properly. Watch what happens in the movies, when Anakin has a teacher that isn't that experienced, albeit good intentions. He fall s to the darkside. We need the wisest Jedi to temper the youth and show the right way. Jedi Initiates>Jedi Apprentice, then Jedi Padawan; under direct mentorship with a Knight or Master, Jedi Knight and then Jedi Master. Council Members should be selected from Jedi Masters, as it would be assumed they earned that title they would be worthy of the appointment! Weather we need a Grandmaster is up for more debate. He/she could be an honorary title with little or no more power than any Councilor!

Yes we should treat each other equally as we can forge better relationships with our Jedi brethren

Having Jedi masters, councils and so on is good. It means people can work their way up but it is no contest. Scociety needs levels but equal levels.

There must be a Jedi Council.

yes all jedi are equal but we need senior members to uphold the belife an the ideas

people don't have time to take care of politics and rules. Regardless of religion or beliefs.You do need "leaders". how they get "picked" is the true issue.

We are all of the force, we are all of the flesh, therefore, we are all the same

All inside the church should respect each other, while remaining different, in several ways.

I think everyone should be treated equally. I also think there should be a hierarchy. But without pomp and fluff.

while there are ranks (youngling, padawan, knight, master council master) these are more a way to simplify the processes of daily operation and aid newer members in determining who to go to for council.

Strongly agree

There should be those that are able to give advice and talk of the ways in positions suitable to help, otherwise with most 'general' descisions a - 'Virtual Socialist Democracy'

In Jedi all things are equal. The need for an administrative board is, and must remain, purely for those matters, and not for any form of control and power. Else the Church become controlled by the dark side.

I agree that the board would help with administrative matters, i.e. the jedi council made of the wisest jedi masters. a hierarchial system would be helpful in the progress of a jedi to show improvement with the force as it were

The rank should be tied to the Jedi personal ability to control the Force and since no-one has demostrated any ability in it, all should remain in the lower rank.

No one has truly physically demonstrated more control over the force than the next person. The day someone does then I will vote to have a hierarchy.

there were 12 members of the original council of Jedis so it would be ok.

Democracy is the best way of ruling. It is not perfect, but it seems the best.

Power causes corruption and greed. These are traits of the dark side.

Yes, all should be treated equally except the position holders who infact has to earn by their contribution to the JEDI council,its members & policy/goal.

We are all equal within the force, however we should have a group of leaders who can lead us to our future.

I agree with having a coucil appointed, no grandmaster though, that would lead to corruption. The coucils initial appointment should be done by the peers. From then on they should decide among the coucil who should be let on the council and who should not. The jedi need not be cotrolled by this, Anakin was granted a spot on the jedi council when not a master. Anakin battled many feelings while he was powerful he was not wise. Our journey to become one with the force is a lifelong one. Dont assume we need things instantly, we shall prevail with our religion.

Only the people who can display such great understanding of the force should be appointed as representatives, voted for by the religions followers

agreed

We should have a board with a member that only votes on decisions needing a tie breaker.

There needs to be a council

Everyone should be treated equally. We are not saying that a 7-year-old padawan is going to tell a senior council member what to do, we are saying that everyone should be treated equally

We need a Council not a leader

Jedi are brother (and sisters) who would command their own blood? Organisation is important.

In a Blue Lodge, all members are equal, regardless of where they come from. A King stands beside the poor man as equals. This has worked for hundreds of years. Business needs should be conducted by as few as possible to avoid mistakes and keep operating costs low.

only if the leaders don't become tyranic

I am equal to any one on this plane of existence only the force is greater. To even give in to the idea of a greater person is to submit your free will to another. If you beleive that another imperfect being is greater than you, then you will also think that you are greater than someone else and hence the cycle of disagreement commences. Let us understand that internal comflict is represented in our world today because of heirarchy that exist in our minds.

It is the rights of the council

All forms of discrimination and/or aristocracy is undesirable.

leaders should be appointed for someone to lead us, hence the name, but they should be appointed via popular demand, likea vote

Are we not voting here, now?

Information is not Knowledge Knowledge is not Wisdom Wisdom is not Beauty Beauty is not Love

leaders,need to be appointed by vote,to govern.

We should treat all equally, and we do need guidance from the wisest of us all. One will need to be taught in order to teach

Even the Grand Master should only be the first among equals

The idea of everybody being equal sounds reasonable. We all share the same beliefs, and are all here for the same purpose. Although appointing one or two people to monitor things and keep things under control would be reasonable idea, I believe that some people would choose to seek this power themselves (As people often do, to gain dominance) and that could lead to some very bad results. Rather than somebody that enforces, we need somebody that can be a medium and take a neutral approach on things. This would help solve any conflicts.

yes all jedi shall be treated equaly

Hierarchy is neccessary to ensure peons stay in their place.

BALANCE MUST BE KEPT,this is a necessity.

Though we should all be treated as equals, we must understand that we are not all equal. We are not all in true balance in Harmony with the Force. I believe that the wisdom of those who we can agree are in balance, as the Force is in balance, would benefit us greatly. It is not a "power" over, as the true Master understands there is no balance in that. A better description would be a mutual concensus that one is more in tune than another at one particular instance. Otherwise, they wouldn't be considered "Master".

All of us are equal and we know that we are the brothers (sisters) of Jedi but i think some degree of stabilisation is needed but not to be used as power only as guidance and advise when wanted- we must remember by putting hierarchy and titles to people may only cause conflict and lead to the dark side- brothers/ sisters forever are one as we know but somebody to guide /advise would not cause conflict it hasn't a title that screams power only someone who is looking out for us.xx

The Jedi have always treated everyone as equals. We will not stop that now. We need a voice, just like any other. We will vote for a Council to represent the rest of the Jedi but they should call for a vote on any bills or laws that they are considering to pass. If not, the power can corrupt our good Jedi and turn them into a Sith. Just look at Anakin Skywalker.

Jedi need structure, Wisdom and compassion should be sought, Seers are also nessesary.

Organization is needed and for that especific roles ,but only as guides or conseilor which opinion should be as imp?rtant as other membership in the church, and not take decisions on his own,put points of view togheter produces better ideas and less mistakes

everyone should be emmdiatly given ranks and people witthing the ranks are equal but will resect the higher ranks

It should work like the jedi order did, before the Great Jedi Purge. Heirachy is needed to keep order, but it should be the jedi who maintain the real power, not its leaders.

It would be very cool -not like many churches I know

needs to be a jedi council

Yes but admin should have no perks what so ever that a normal jedi should have....

ey is no-ones bitch !!!

We need but a board only. All should be treated equal- no restricting access to certain places to only a select few.

Leadership means that one has more power than the other. Power leads to jealousy and greed. Jealousy and Greed lead to anger, which leads to the dark side.

except they should apreciate the counic more

Yes, we should treat all members equally. Though we should also treat all members as individuals; that we share a faith does not mean we share hopes and dreams and insecurities. Which should be kept in mind. Still. Deciding our treatment of others by their faith or their devotion or their charisma, in any of those directions lie the dark side.

NO CHAOS!!!!!!! CHAOS MEANS DARK SIDE

Please do not assume that a non hierarchal system lacks structure. A consensus based council will have its own structural process, it just creates a balance of power so that no single person, or oligarchy will gain control, thus leading to the dark side.

We need equality and leadership.

we need a council to keep order but they need to be wise and know what they are doing and dont have anything wich will turn them to the DARK SIDE! my friend jedi_master_jam turned to the darkside becouse there wasent order we dont want more and more people turning becouse there isnt order around this place. jamsterman12

The dark side would call for the mistreatmennt of any member regardless of race, creed, color, or even sex. The feelings of jealousy and envy can arise where there is supression of a people. This is why there is disorder in the world today.

I strongly agree. Everyone deserves to be treated the same, but with the exception of those who can take on the responsibilities of being in higher power without using it for darkness and corruption.

The print reads "excepting the need to appoint a board for administrative matters". With the exception of the few that appoint those decisions, we are all one. No one person contributes more or less to the force. Any room for inequality will be abused by those who belong to the dark side.

usually its the people that dont have as much power that have good ideas and they see things differently than the people with power, so treat everyone equal and listen to them all the same

yes everyone is equal in the force

we need a "council" so to speak to help guide people through hardship

every member should have any right to be themselves or expand their knowledge

All members should have the same basic rights, but only members who have been Jedi for a long time should be able to, for example, vote on a new movement.

there should be more then one to make choices councel

Some of us might be stronger in the force than others but every one should be treatet equally.

This makes sense, giving one power over another leads to corruption.

We are all one so should be treat as One

We obviously need a teacher of the ways to guide us, but other than that, we are all equals!

A question for a future date this is

Board members are needed to address issues but not to dictate to the other members, there should be no hierarchy as The Force is in all of us.

we are all equel being but there should be a council

There still needs to be a high force to control all others and stop rebellion.

With God providing the Commandments that structure the faith as Yoda was told.

yes but the board should not have more power than the congregation

I agree that a structure needs to be present but perhaps not a major thing. For instance are we to base everything off a few movies or base it off a moral code from the movie and weed in things like Buddhism and things that fit. Study everything to gain the wisdom.

I'm in between on this, on one hand this was something that was wrong with the Catholic Church for me. So maybe something not so rigid just teachers in each community.

make removal easy

a council is needed, a council of jedi masters that knows much about the force and can then teach the rest about it.

one of the previous questions was "should The Jedi Church seek to become a charitable trust" if it did who would decide on what and where to spend resources if not a board or "council"? this is not to say that any one person should be treated with disrespect or unequaly

A Jedi's value derives from his contribution to his community in service, in ideas and as a role model. If he is to lead, he will lead by example, if he is to follow, he will follow out of his own accord and in true freedom. His authority can solely derive from consensus and cannot be imposed upon others. His authority is only moral. The discipline cannot be forced upon any man, it must be picked up by personal choice.

We all all the same one for all and all for 1

Just physically locating a "true" fellow jedi is difficult enough, if one does another, let them be in a council of two. Congregation is more unifying than communication alone.

Equal

Not making people equal would let anger slip in to our ranks

Although all members should have the same rights and privilages,there should be a council made up of representatives, to guide and oversee the general operations of the jedi order. This national council should then be superceded by an international council made up of Masters selected in a representative electoral system. Masters should be eligible no matter age, race, colour and creed. These masters should have merely group decision making powers. Nothing more! of course only if the need arises to have someone take charge of a situation. although there should be a counsel of 12 that have governing rights of the order at all times that must be elected by the order

Yes. Equality is the way of the force. I agree that there must be a governing council but they should serve the Jedi community. As long as judicial concerns are dealt with fairly I believe this is the best way.

Although the newest must respect the elders & wisest.

I will not ever agree to a "some are more equal than others" type of equality. No Jedi Master tells another what to do or what not to do. Each is their own Master, governed by their own conscience.

NOT A BOARD, A JEDI COUNCIL DUH

A tree cannot live with out the roots, the leaves, the trunk, and the branches. There must be designated leadership for the community to thrive. Leaders will make themselves known as we all talk, it is only a matter of listening to the Force so that we know who those leaders should be. As for structure, A primary council of 12 with one of the members being the leader, that is voted on buy all Jedi, however that Jedi can be removed by the council at any time if that person is found to be corrupted by the darkside. Underneath of that would exist the same organizational structure in every country. every council would be responcible for thier country answering to there Jedi Community and the International Council of 12. Sir Liam

Duties must be done. Other than that? Opinions and perceptions would cloud something so Natural.

No Jedi should have more power then there master, and no master should have more power then they require, power can lead to the dark side and having to much power can corrupt, we must balance this power if we wish to thrive.

Jedi Council is above all others, except the force

I feel a round table where everyone's voice can be herd is necessary.votes can be taken. all good. But to implement votes and make decisions. a council.To me the force is not 1 mind or person but a body of life forces.all equal that being said. ranks are a good way to demonstrate things like time ,commitment,acts of kindness,light motivations if you will

Todos debemos tener los mismos derechos y obligaciones, pero debe existir una estructura interna que permita gestionar la organización.

fuck all of u

The only true leaders are those with the most knowledge and respect towards others and the religion.

The more power is centralized, the more the ones who own it are sensitive to the fear of losing it. And we all know where the fear of loss and the lust of power bring to. Equal distribution is balance, but only as long as knowledge is given to everyone: without knowledge there is nothing to enlighten darkness.

no one person is better than the next , everybody is created equal , for the order to remain true to the beliefs on which it was founded everybody must co-exsist

I'm generally neutral but I kind of agree here.

Those appointed would need to be voted in by the members of the church...with guidelines of limitations of powers and in most all matters having to be voted upon without a set group having absolute say so. No congress, no body of power, no senate. Only speakers of intellect in debating for or against various issues, and the body of the whole of the church to vote upon the issue. In this, the majority truly will rule themselves, and likewise, have only themselves to blame should anything go astray.