The Jedi administrative board shall have no more than 12 members?

On average, everyone agrees with significant nonconsensus between 822 voters.

Reasons To Disagree

The International council should have 13 members

ELEVEN ;)

No more then 8 if you ask me, the more people IN power, the more people WANT power.

13 i think is a better number

Council should be an odd number. Therefore, when a vote is taken there will be no ties

Council of the 12 is a long standing tradition. However in matters where a tie is given need to be addressed. Therefore a position of Grand Master should be created. This would be the chair of the council and would only vote in matters of a tie being reached. This individual should be appointed by the council of twelve. Then the vacant spot filled by another member!

why 12 ?

13 is a better number, and administrative board should have members from all over the world not just one area... such as 1-3 per region depending on number of members. i.e. US, Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand, etc.

From experience in dealing with large memberships and administrative boards, I believe the number of administrators should be in direct response to the number of members.

13

were am i? whats a je-di?

seven is better chose more member can be more dicutable ont the table seven = no tie not much and not poor group

I think the number should be related somwhow to the overall population of jedi

The number is close, but I am more along the lines of an odd number. That way, no "hung jury" type of situations.

The council should be as large as it needs to be.

I think 9 is a better number. There should not be too many nor too few.

There should be an odd number to balance a vote in needed

odd numbers are good.

It should have as many members as necessary to facilitate the running of the order.

We need to have a large board, to compensate for the weak of heart inside the board, that turn to the dark side. we cannot hinge this church on the purity of a few.

how would they be chosen?? elections? but how would the word of who is who get out and be known. Why not an odd number as to ballance a potential tied vote on important matters

The council should have as many people as it is need to accomplish the business at hand. There should be a minimum quorum or 5 members for meetings. But it shouldn't be limited.

The number seems entirely random and arbitrary. Remember the movies gave us common verbage and a place to communicate not a way to emulate or copy.

12 is too even. need the odd count of 13

There should be a representitive from ever race and species involved, be they a dog or a voreln, whatever those might be.

By administrative board, I assume you mean the council. The council must be an odd number to avoid ties on any issues. The number of council members should be determined by the council. As the work load dictates, they can add or remove members - following the odd number total rule.

Any council should have a odd number to break any tie and disagreement. 12 is therefor a bad choice, 13 would be better.

13 would seem to be a good number, so as to avoid many stalemates on issues. However the number is not the important factor, simply that the correct consensus is being represented is.

Twelve people is a relatively small number to manage such a large organization. The smaller the number the higher the chances that one or more people could gain too much power.

the number should be based on numbers and regions

12 is a good round number that can voice enough opinions with out breaking into violence.

12? are u kidding me first get like a odd number so it doesn't come down to a issue that keeps repeating and then why so many must have so many people answer issues that we cant not with 7 or 9 or 5 ? maybe even 13 but there is no reason for such a high number people will strongly disagree

21 would allow a non-tie system and a wide number of opinions to make sure no matter is ever taken lightly.

Scrap the board decisions should be made like this

13 is a better number. 13 council members, plus one who acts as a tiebreaker should a vote ever be tied. The thirteenth acts as a basic chairman and mediator should ever disagreement sully the councils table. Only when a vote is tied should that thirteenth member be required to cast a vote.

there should be experiments, to see how the community will react in amounts of numbers

This is Not even enough for one minister per country.. I think there should be a hierarchy within each church, and an over all administrative board consisting of a minister from each church globally. :)

10

their shouldnt be a board we are all born equall and we will all die equall or every member who takes this serious should be a mamber.

As many as are required to continue the growth of the Church should be allowed.

i agree with the 13 people, it has to be an odd number!!!!! indeed it should be a prime number.

i think more than 12

13 or 11.

it should be an odd number, so that decisions will always have a clear win when voted for by the high council

There should only be 3 members, me, Ashlee and Sam

I believe there should be an odd number of council members, so that in the event that there is a tie, there won't be one.

Geography and population should be taken into account. Regional councils possibly?

I think the number will need to grow as the church grows. I also feel that an odd number is necessary to ensure that a tie is impossible.

there is too many of us to have 12 maxiumum leaders

7 son

7members there can be no ties. and discussion topics need to be given to all members for in put before a vote.

It would make logical sense that the council members should have an odd number so that a final vote by the Grand Master be cast on occasion when stalemate is reached on any particular issue. As such I would vote for 13 members to include the Grand Jedi master.

i dont think 12 would be good..but i have a idea. y not have 1 or 2(depending on the size of the country) admimistrative from each country.

Let it be anumber of unevenness to bring BLANCE.

i would say 13 to be best

13 should be they way of the force, to off set any ties

An odd number will be needed to counter-act any ties that may take place. And it must be a big enough number to properly representate all Jedis.

I have seen a Council, 4 seers, and 12 masters. 16 to lead,love and enlighten.

That number is a purely arbitrary cut-off. It's absurd. Also, ANY good organization should have an odd number of people on the board. There are many issues where the entire board should have an equal vote on. You NEED an odd number to break the ties on tough issues where the opinions are split.

there should be different sectors of administatives to deal with differnt issus and a leader from each sector should meet with other administrative leaders to finalise decisions

I believe that there should be a i representative from each country.

11 or 13

An odd number is needed so there can be a definite result in disputes, It does not matter what that number is as long as it is odd.

13 is a beter number in order to avoid stalemate on contentious issues

The rule of 2 should apply.

12 Masters 1 Grand Master, who shall vote impartially in the event of a tie break, but who's role is primarily to provide wise insight into The Force to help The Council of Twelve to decide peacefully, so as to prevent the creation of a Schism among The Order.

the council should have 13 members to break any ties or disagreements

31 is the way.

In a working order 12 should be suffice since the Council will certainly come to a conclusion,the council has the interest for the good of all at heart and Anger and Conflict are ways to the Darkside . Also should it not be more than one person from a country should this be possible there is no need for any kind of "political" power in the Jedi Order or the council

13. So far, it has led to good luck around me and there should be no reason it will give bad luck to the board. there can be 6 on each side, than 1 that will announce the decision to everyone else.

It should have one from every country and should have a forum for every country to vote and then it goes to ther board

13 so no votes are ties

No more than 15.

I think twelve is an awfully small number. While fewer people is more efficient, twelve people in all the world to make important church decisions seems a bit off to me.

IT IS JUST LIKE POLITICS THEY WILL CORRUPT THE JEDI AS THEY DID IN REAL LIFE

Any prime number will do. 13 is good.

13, because its uneven and doesn't allow tie votes

They need an uneven number so there is always a majority, 13 is a decent number, it depends on how big the religion grows

The number should be odd as to avoid ties.

12 members for an entire planet? Not going to work.

13

When having 12 people, there are always chances of a tie when it comes to a vote. With a different number such as 11 or 13, there will be a definite answer. As well as this, having 11 or 13 people means that there can be a small handful of people from different regions within this catagory.

13

There should be 13; 12 council members and a "speaker." The speaker would keep discussion on topic and guide debate. In matters of a tie, a poll should be submitted to the body of the Jedi church to allow us to decide as a community.

Need an odd number so limit to 11

We should have 13 of 11 beacouse then we wont get ties.

It needs thirteen, an odd number to make decisions.

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Should be an odd number with majority rules

13

i also agree there should be an odd number, but between 13 and 19

13 is a good number. But 11 is to. Less people better Needs to be odd to break ties

I believe that the number should be odd to avoid ties in voting.

12 members are traditional due to God not setting on the council. However; Yoda and I agreed that I would start siting on the international council and Galactic council and the Universal Council as their thirteenth member. I want the national councils to have a 13th member in order to break tied votes. I agree to sit as my homeland?s 13th member.

make it 13 for tie situations

Make it 13. If 12 all agree on something, it is the responsibility of the 13th person to disagree on it and research WHY.

I believe the order should have 12 main "Masters" of the board, with 5 board members to each region, a region being that of a state (ex: Texas, Florida) or a region (ex: New Zealand, France).

13 to have no ties in votes

Any number will do, as long as it is free to change.

13

An odd number would be better. Just for the event of a tie.

There should be something around 12 but it should be an odd number so there cannot be a tie when voting.

We should have 23 members to achieve greatness

Should have 13 keeps from ever having a stalemate.

13 would remove any ties that could appear

I agree that an odd number would be best due to tiebrealing situations and I believe there may be times when the knowledge of others, both inside and outside our faith, should be taken into consideratiob.

Why is there to be a limit?

There needs to be at most 15 at minimum 13. First, the #2 rule should apply when disputing ideas.

13 so there are no ties

odd number would be better

13!! Sounds better

13 as to prevent ties and arguments which lead to anger and lead to the dark side.

13 members would create a system with no chance of a vote going undecided. the system should hold representatives from across the world as it would allow different cultures to have a say on the outcome of matters. was the jedi council made up of all humans? or all wookies? or lord save us gungans?

there should be 13 decorated masters, to prevent a tie

Odd number to prevent tie in vote unless we can proceed with combat to decide

there should be 11 or 13 members

I think there should be a 13th member to avoid ties

There should be more for each nation

Reasons To Agree

12 is a good sized number, democracy can be negotiated should there be a tie, and 6 by 6 makes for good points of debate and reason.

they should have only one so he can be reliquished by stronger leader

according to traditions the council is made up of 12 Jedi and all decisions must be made unanimously. there can never be division in the council and those appointed have the responsibility to make the only choice that serves the greater good of members of the Jedi faith

12 is a historical number for the jedi, and I think that if a tie occurs, discussions should happen to try and resolve it.

there only needs to be 12, any more and then theres no point.. to many people. means if on person has an idea.. lots of people have to arguy there point on wearth its a good idea or not..

we should follow the rules of the Jedi Council of old. The Council was made up of five lifetime members, four long-term members, and three limited-term members

The force is the council we all keep

perfect size

12 is a nice round number, plus it's even. I think thsoe twelve should be open to teach and dedicate a lot of their time to other Jedi. If not then there should be more.

I think that 12 is a good number. The idea of having an odd number is a fair idea, but as Jedi we must learn to compromise, and perhaps a Council of 12 will find a way to illustrate that and lead by example.

The Force and magnitude of such concentration of the Force together shall produce a unanimous decision. No divisions allowed. The Force is Truthful and these 12 must be in one accord as proof that they are fit to sit on the council and are indeed flowing in wisdom that can only be provided by said connection to the light side of the Force.

an odd number is better, to prevent ties. Also, there should be layers, so that those of a region may have the benefit of a council for advise and wisdom(though it may be smaller for regionals)

As said in a previous vote - not everyone has time to dedicate themselves to "politics" and decisions - 12 dedicated member, is a much better choice than 200.000 undedicated members.

We must have a council to lead us to greater peace

12 members guided by the One true master ( The force)

Totally agree

this is a good number. it also provides a distribution of wider ideas.

That is ok for me. There was once 12 youngsters...

12 is the traditional number for the Jedi council. It is not too much nor too little for the council to make a good decision on various matters.

unity and the force will guide the 12

The Council is a governing body, big enough to represent the members, small enough to act decisively and with enough accumulated wisdom to make good decisions. If there is a greater workload others may always be co-opted in to perform tasks and other functions as needed.

A system should be put in place for a chain of command.

12 Masters should be appointed, Power is not an issue for a jedi. We do not lust for it or let it consume us.

12 members has always how it has been.

Let the members be the tie breaking vote.

12 is a good number. i also believe that for every decision two people should be appointed, one for each side before the counsel is made aware of the question. that way all members should have an unbiased view of all sides, or at least strive for one.

If a vote is decided because of ONE more vote, then perhaps it isn't such a great idea to agree on it. There must be a larger difference between the winning- and losing side of the argument.

I agree, no more than 12, but that doesn't mean 12 is a good number!

12 is a good number. It allows enough members for the oder to remain un-corrupted, yet there are few enough for it to not become a group of arguing debators.

12 is a nice round number that will be useful for debates and decision making. more will unbalance it and less may make it bias.

The Force decided upon 12 council members, and as Jedi, we follow the will of the Force.

The order has been 12 in the films and have worked throughout that script. Though this is not a film but I believe 12 is a good number of Masters to have. It should only be given the rank of Master on the council to the ones that have become strong and well balanced with the force and that are not tempted to use the force to their own evil.

There is nothing wrong with a high number of administraters. But our leaders should be strong in the force and know how to lead.

Same as the number of apostles.

12 Jedi Masters 2 Sith Agents In order to bring balance to the force, a Jedi Council is needed.

to many chefs spoil the broth

The Force decided upon 12 council members, and as Jedi, we follow the will of the Force.

To large a board will end up causing administrative problems in the long run

12 members, tradition remains.

tradition

12, so when there is something to discuss there arises the need to debate to achieve the needed number of votes on the council. This way there is a better chance of a proper decision.

As long as i am one i dont care lol !!!

Maybe 13

12 Council members is tradition for Jedi. Even if you don't follow the "unanimous decision" code of the Old Council, you should normally have enough people on one side of the issue to achieve a majority.

there should be 12 council members, each with knolage and wisdom, in different areas of expertise. this will enable an informed desicion on actions of the council

A dozen is just right.

You might as well start a Senate if you're going to have more than twelve. We should look to the Jedi Council on the first three movies for guidance.

12 is good number its balanced.

Its always been 12 members on the board. Why change it?

that seems a bit high and i think it should be an odd number so there is no tie

Ok. "12" is a powerful simbolic number.

They should be carefully hand-picked and selected for their good qualities that make them good enough to be on the board. If too many people are selected it widens the scope for selection, thus rendering the board much weaker.

12 is a great number it's large to group ideas, small enough to keep everything to a minimum. But if the Order Grows then I believe so should the administration.

I agree with this

Twelve members is a good number, same as a jury.

There are legal issues with lifetime members, but it is also a church with a historic structure. You should set a high minimum age for consideration as a lifetime boardmember. Committee structures can fill the same need that additional voting boardmembers would.

12 is an even sized Council, it is important that is free of ego and bias. This is hard but can be achieved.

As long as they are just that, administrators, not money grubbers

the Council shall have twelve members with an elected member as head of the council. Section.

there shuld be council members from al over the world etc. i live in sweden and we need a council member on or cause, i say 12 or 14 so my answer is 12 ? Padawan npw

The Jedi Counsel should have 12 Masters, but there should be a Grand Master to break ties in voting.

6, 8, 10, 12, 15, 18 just keep it under twenty

The Councils of old ended up being corupted over time and as such should be made up of five long-term members, four limited-term members, and three lifetime members

There should be a 12 member council with a lesser board of 24 representatives that would bring important discussions to the council

Corruption seeps into everything. Would it not be better to be safe than sorry

the 13th will always be Darth

I believe that there will be a vote on the who sits on the council and makes request to have the jedi community vote on 12 is the best for each country

NO More than!

There should be 12 but one of the 12 members is the Leader and should make the descions based on how his council guides him. The back up is if the council feels that the leader has gone to the darkside, then the council can remove him with an 8 or more vote. Leadership with accountabillity is the only way. Sir Liam

Any more than 12 and things get bogged down. If there is a Grand master they should have a deciding vote if any decision is tied.

It should be 11 or 13, less of a risk of a tie occurring on matters. But then again, they should listen to the body of the Jedi church as a whole regarding the direction we should go towards. These administrators should be thoroughly vetted to prove they are worthy of such a power.

There should be many as it grows this number should increase

I think 12 is a good number.

Agreeable, but those 12 MUST be voted in by the whole body of the members, the church as a whole and never appointed aby a selective few. We must keep in mind the errors of the American mistakes and protect the church form all levels of corruption and/or ridicule.