Our faith in the force existed well before the fictional Star Wars movies brought popular recognition to the terminology and concepts that our members always innately held?
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Our faith in the force existed well before the fictional Star Wars movies brought popular recognition to the terminology and concepts that our members always innately held
Reasons To Disagree
This did not exist before the books George Lucas wrote.
20 July 2008
I don't know, when I born, George Lucas and SW, were there, so...
8 October 2008
There was no such thing as a "Jedi" before Star Wars.
8 December 2008
Sorry to say it but the Jedi church is from the movies and books. I'm afraid to admit it, but it wasnt even close to an original belief system before it was tied into Star Wars
3 January 2009
The GOOD and EVIL is creation of our own MIND.
18 April 2009
George Lucas came up with the term: "Jedi" But the principles of "The Force" existed in EVERY major religion. The Force is in many respects another name for God. Mr Lucas I believe owns the rights to the Jedi terminology on behalf of the Star Wars Franchise.... If you really want the Church to be accepted beyond the Star Wars Mythology, a name change would be in order. They own the rights legally AND in the minds of anybody who thinks the word Jedi... The principles of the Jedi, were based off of a conglomerations of old religions (as most religions are actually VERY similar), but did NOT originate from there.... The "Force" in Star Wars was actually inspired by this movie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21-87
13 May 2009
Nope its been similar like the samurai but George picked the samurai to match up with the jedi so in a way we are all just samurai? lol :D
30 May 2009
The principles of "The Force" exists in all major religions - There should be a charge led to create a distinction between the movies and the religion.
21 September 2009
The movies brought a very strong belief forward that I think many before and after all of us will continue to believe.
29 September 2009
The Jedis were created in Star Wars. What we believed in, have hardly changed.
8 October 2009
This is a stupid question.
3 December 2009
Jediism itself didn't exist before Star Wars but considering it was created based on other religions their are elements that existed before it.
4 July 2013
did it really????? you must be a really powerful Jedi master then
21 November 2014
Reasons To Agree
Of course, the force is the presence of a god/deity which means it has been around since the beginning (god knows when that was)
19 July 2008
Simply because the movies weren't made or the book wasn't written does not mean it wasn't there.
7 August 2008
More as Taoism
17 August 2008
Lucas based the Jedi on Samurai in large part, followers of Buddhism and Shintoism. The Force is perhaps his own spin on spirituality as far as his terms and descriptions, but it actually fits quite well with many spiritual points of view that existed long before these movies... or any movie, for that matter.
6 October 2008
Before Lucas and the movies, the ancient civilizations like Celts,Aztecs,Egyptians,etc believed on the use and existance of energies superior to the human beings, so we can say the knowledge and existance of the Force is older than the movies.
27 October 2008
Was dragged to Christian church as a child but never believed it as I asked a lot of questions and was never given a satisfactory answer. I believed there was a power greater than me in the Universe, just wasn't sure what it was.
1 December 2008
The movie just gave it a name
6 January 2009
the ideas behind the jedi faith have always been around, Lucas just gave us a name for it...
9 January 2009
The Force holds many similarities to The Path(s) of Buddhism, which only strives for "right living" and so forth. (We'll note as well, that the Jedi in Mr. Lucas' stories don't disparage the faiths of others. We could ALL learn from that. It only leads to hate, and the Dark Side.)
9 January 2009
I felt the same way before I became a big fan of star wars
10 January 2009
It is the Chi, The Holy Spirit, Gaya
10 January 2009
if you look at the old norse text they talk of a force that binds all things and is in all things,they called it manna,if you were ill they would say that the manna of the virus was stronger than than your manna and shame would be on you in those practical warrior times
1 March 2009
Lukas only mixed up existing religious concepts so far. So they have existed long before the first STAR WARS MOVIE. I'm as one of the first INDIGO CHILDS got born with the knowledge of all things in this world having a soul.
20 March 2009
The Star Wars movies provided some common terms and expressed concepts for The Force. No one currently knows the origin of The Force, because it certainly predates human history.
18 April 2009
It was exposure to the movies that made me realise there was more to life than God and religion. I was very young (only 4) when A New Hope was released and had not had the opportunity to develop my personal beliefs earlier. But I can see how people could of realised the existence of something they could not explain before that moment. They were only waiting for a name for their belief.
20 April 2009
I was a Freemason for 12 years and it was the organisation that fitted my beleifs prior to Jedi. I chose it because of that. In my opinion the Movies only happened to package the faith, making the concept more visible. You could also have based it on older fictional or even factual heroes who embodied the meaning of the doctrine.
2 May 2009
The force is neither god or evil, so we cannot reach out to it or blame it if it didnt help us. if god was real, he would not have let us fall to our demise. The force is the best explanation for the thing which began the world(big bang or whatnot lol) as it is always "there" the films just gave us bit of termonology xD the force could have been called Jiberyjoo if we wanted to call it that.
9 May 2009
Agree. The concepts that Lucas used in the movies were taken from other contemporary religious ideas and philosophies that had influenced Lucas considerably.
21 May 2009
25 May 2009
The beliefs have always existed and followed, George Lucas just provided a name
28 May 2009
The force existed always, although others interpreted it as a god, mystical being, ect.. If the force was always then so were we and our beliefs
11 June 2009
Go back to ancient egyptian history - you will find all sorts of things in regards to the writings of the Jedai/Djedi.
9 July 2009
24 August 2009
star wars gave it a cool name that is all
13 September 2009
The Force did not simply come into being once a literary or visual work used it as an object of a story. The concept of the Force has been around since before the written word. The Star Wars story simply highlighted the path to what has always existed.
19 September 2009
faith in the force is the oldest religion on the planet and until the star wars movies it was nameless because it was the one true religion.
26 September 2009
Look, i heard the word Force, with a capital F used in the main atheistic Unitarian church in Toronto as a synonym for a weak God of some type, in 1954, that is long before Geo Lucas. 15% in that chch believed in the Force.
29 September 2009
The Force is just another word for energy, Qi whatever you want to call it. Energy cannot be created or destroyed -- so it was around before we gave the name of the "Force" to it. And people who have a faith in Qi etc are also doing the same thing, the only difference is we, as Jedi have a different view on how to use this "energy" and so a different way of life determined by the Jedi Code. And Yes people were living like "Jedi" before the movies, just with a different name for "Force", I for one already lived life like the Jedi code determines but of course there wasn't a Jedi code I followed it was just a way of life hat I lived, now the Jedi way has brought another name to that way of life, and that is all the Jedi way is, a philosophy, and there are many ways to live life, chances are people have done this before just with different terminology.
3 October 2009
the lone ranger, superman etc all good.
7 October 2009
and it's called Qi...
5 November 2009
the force is an entity that has been emphasized by the star wars series
8 November 2009
but the films made it come to light
8 December 2009
We are based on the ancient Samurai way.
21 January 2010
well more as taoisim or bubist with the fighting skills and such
25 January 2010
It's more commonly refered to as Bhuddism, but yes.
28 January 2010
yes..but i do like bein a jedi <3
29 January 2010
Its human nature to look for answers to unexplainable events whether it be from religion, ghosts, aliens, lifestream or the force.
5 February 2010
Yes, i believe that there is no god who love us and has a plan for us...but a force that gave us the opportunity to make a change in life.
8 February 2010
We all belive in something bigger than what we are as individuals.. some may choose to put there whole faith into this, while others believe we are our own 'gods' and the power held within us, is the greatest of all.. Much like the buddhist faith.. this above anything, must be true!
18 February 2010
There is no god, only The Force and for that we have believed in for centuries before "George Lucas", an agent of the Sith, he is.
5 March 2010
The force has always been present, it's just been interpreted differently before the formation of the star wars films. They just provided examples of order.
9 March 2010
The name of "the Force" is just a popularized version of something I have always believed in since i was a youngling.
17 March 2010
Simply because the movies weren't made or the book wasn't written does not mean it wasn't there. id said it existed more as Taoism
17 March 2010
The force has been around for eons. It's not measurable! Please donate and spred the word. I would like to see the Jedi Church purchase a new starship. Only then will scientologist worship the Jedi, and leave the darkside.
18 March 2010
search your feelings, you know this to be true
22 March 2010
The Force has been recognized as many other things through out history. Asian cultures studied it as chi or ki energy. Pagan societies recognized the balance of the pure Force for thousands of years before even Romans began their conquest. The "Force" has been around since the beginning of time and is the Alpha and Omega.
28 March 2010
The Force and belief in it was always around, yet it did not have a name or title, and George Lucas gave it one. He also brought more recognition to the cause, and was able to unite everyone under a common name.
29 March 2010
although I don't have the force. I have empathy and sympathy towards the people around me friend or enemy.
2 April 2010
The consept of the force exsisted in me before i knew of the movies, there for others could have come to believe as i have.
5 April 2010
The principles of the jedi church existed before SW in the forms of certain beliefs of other religions
10 April 2010
I believe that the Force has existed since the creation of the first living being, which is not human of course.
16 April 2010
the force of the two opposites (negative-positive, good-evil, ying-yang) whatever you want to call it has been around from the begging of time - god and devil are two sides of the same person - it is important to keep the balance
18 April 2010
The Syar Wars movies merely gave tangible expression to what many felt before.
1 May 2010
its like the sun, star wars just gave it a name and recognition
10 May 2010
simular to budda, just different form
3 July 2010
Force flows eternaly. We have known it from the very beginning if there was one.
25 July 2010
I've joined this religion not because of the movies but because I could feel that all religions where wrong and there was still a force out there what created all life
27 July 2010
this is but a name to speak of it as the creator of star wars also build the Jedi Order in his Mind combining different believes
20 August 2010
If I understand the doctrine well enough, I would say YES!. Star Wars, was a creation that brought a moniker to an already practiced ideology. To say that this path is brought to life by Star Wars, is to say the space programs were created from science fiction writers. Which inspire who? Does it really matter? if the practice of emulating a fictional character brings about a strong, moral faith or belief structure. Maybe we should thank them, verses questioning them.
14 September 2010
but i think back then we was a bit unsure how to channel it as good as today
13 October 2010
Star Wars came out before I was born, and I first saw it before I was even old enough to remember, so it's hard to say that on a personal level. Still, my beliefs were uninfluenced by it in my formative years, and I still arrived at the same conclusion... And besides the philosophies in Star Wars are constructed from older, non-fictional systems of belief.
4 November 2010
George Lucas spent much study on the world belief systems, modern through antiquity, in the developmental concept of "the Force" concept, which can be recognized by anyone with some learning and knowledge in religious studies beyond that of the typical layman.
26 November 2010
The belief in universalism has been expressed through out time and history.
29 November 2010
Jedi dates back to at least 12000 B.C. It is only now that it is more in the public eye, and that is largely down to the world wide web!
8 December 2010
The Force has been always there - thanks George Lucas to name it, tag it and popularize it - we have been a bit uncentered before Star Wars
3 January 2011
agreed every one knows we always existed
7 January 2011
Force has always been with us.
13 January 2011
Star Wars just give a name to our faith
27 February 2011
Of course, call it a Pantheistic God,Great spirit or Tao, it has always been there.
28 February 2011
See my Star Explorers: The Discovery and Psye ens: The Hidden Knowledge.
5 March 2011
I think all religions believe in a force of some kind. The Jedi religion has its own terminology and theology to it.
15 March 2011
the froce has all been around just its been called many names but the meaning is the same help others and do whats right.
3 April 2011
I used to be a Roman Catholic, but I knew inside that I liked my moral views better than what I could find in my church. When I realized that Star Wars could help me explain how I viewed life, it helped me greatly because I could finally show people how I felt about life without stumbling over my words. My faith existed before I used Star Wars to help explain things.
11 June 2011
before i had heard about SW i belive in a force or power who held of together everything in the univers, everything at our earth. When George Lukas wrote SW, he was maybe just using his own belive, and maybe his belive was that there is a force who bind all together.
28 June 2011
yes it has been around since the mid evil times and shall still go around to ppl of the force
10 August 2011
Yes. Read the Tao Teh Ching.
3 February 2012
Star Wars was a theatrical represantation of Taoist, Buddhist, Bushido and Shamanistic beliefs. These beliefs inspired ancient cultures, the hippie movement in the 60's/70's and the new age movement of today.
11 February 2012
The Force is in everyone... most people just haven't discovered it yet.
21 February 2012
I would think so
22 February 2012
The fait existed but the name came with star wars.
2 April 2012
25 June 2012
The films helped to highlight our faith and bring us together that is all
5 January 2013
I agree, Buddhist have different words for the force, the movie terminology give us something easier to agree on
22 August 2013
The movies gave it a name, but the principles were always there.
4 May 2014
Force. Jedi. Star Wars. These are but names. Labels of pre-existing realities told through myth and legend.
6 December 2014
i believe all religions started out with nearly the same believes but power, money, and ignorence changed them into what they are today
1 January 2015
Joseph Campbell said so long before Lucas was even out of college.
24 February 2015
physicists used to actualy call the zero point energy field the force.. actualy. It what antique ufo's used for fuel before element 115 (in real life)
21 June 2015
I belived in my own religion before I saw this but now I have I am glad I have read this
27 June 2015
I have always known of its existance. The movie simply gave a name to thr Force.
1 January 2016
this is spiritualism. star wars just gave it a more identifiable name and terms
7 January 2016
The force has always been and will always be
11 November 2017
14 June 2019
Belief in an energetic force within the universe was around long before any films were ever even a possibility to be created. The Jedi and the Force as laid out in the Star Wars stories are just that, but the underlying concepts that those were based on have been around for as far back as we have written record.
15 December 2020
Reasons for Remain Neutral
Jedi should refrain from defending themselves. Defending oneself only feeds what you do not want to become more powerful.
George Lucas is the religius leader to the jedi faith.. he pointed us in the right directing on believe in it.. he pointed out that the force is real. the force might of been here since the dawn of time.. but George Lucas helped us relises it.. he should be knighted. or even king of the world lol
The concept behind the force, "panthesism", has been around since well before the christian era. The Jedi words and codes are newer. Our members held NO innate concepts, as I understand the word "concept", nor has any other human.
Yes and no. The Balance that it is, I am sure existed somewhere before Lucas [and subsequent authors after him] have defined, but the idea of "the Jedi Way" was first laid out by ole Uncle George.
I was not alive, so i dont know =D
You have to admit this comes from a book that also came out to the theater... but does it sound that much weirder than believing in a "man walking on water and that died for "us" cruxified on a cross? Just because the other religions have older roots does not (and in any way) mean they speak the truth more than any other religion.
Yes, it existed, but George Lucas brought what was many different belief systems into one idea.
My faith existed before hand, but I cannot speak for others.
I cannot answer this. some people may have believed this before hand, I however was enlightend when it was elaborated on during the movies. It takes an event or a person to spark a religion and the followers merely agree with the beliefs
I cant agree either way i don't remember before the first movie
I have not been alive since time began...who am i to agree or disagree?
Believing in an almighty force in the universe is ancient. Putting words and creating a serious philosophy, we thank George Lucas for.
The truth of the Force is larger than any story that reports it. Prana, chi, ki, tao, holy spirit, soul, vibration, etc are all talking about the same innate engergy. Jedi unite all of these under one term.
im nor sure but i just thought star wars was the reason for our religon
I dunno i just work here
I cannot make a correct judgment because I was born after the events of Star Wars.
While George Lucas did create the Jedi/Sith universe, and he still owns the rights to them, (Does he own a percentage of this site thanks to that...?) he DID NOT create the IDEA of the Force or the Good vs Evil struggle. He merely named them. Religions worldwide believe in One Omniprescent Force that controls theyre everyday lives. The only thing I recommend is getting written permission from George Lucas to use Jedi in the name of our church.
The force is what links us all together! George Lucas just gave a name to it so we could identify by terminology. It has always been and forever always be.
THE MOVIES JUST EXPLAINED THE FORCE FROM TWO SIDES OF VIEW
Force has been here before the movies, perhaps not how the Jedi Church see it. However it was never recognised and therefore only brought about by Star Wars which this faith was made upon.
I am not sure. The movies sure explained it but I don't think I would of have these views beforehand.
it matters not
I cannot say yes or no. I was not bought up in a religious environment and was not exposed to any such concepts except for "you will believe in the christian god and that's it". Whether or not one's faith existed before they knew about a set of movies is a matter of personal experience, not a matter to be voted on.
Tough one can I undo see the films of truth and say they had no influence?
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